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|    Jack Bohn to Paul Colquhoun    |
|    Re: Technological Recovery    |
|    09 Oct 17 10:19:43    |
      From: jack.bohn64@gmail.com              Paul Colquhoun wrote:              > That's not the only difference. Ringworld is mind-bogglingly huge, with       > the star located at the center, and shadow rings for day-night cycles.       >        > Orbitals are much smaller, down to single planet sized surface areas,       > (or less) and orbit the star like a normal planet would.       >        > I can't remember how they did the day-night thing. Maybe shutters on an       > enclosing roof structure?              A brief look says that its spin is not in the plane of its orbit. So, like an       inside-out planet, we'd see the sun rising and setting, but we are actually       turning towards and away from it. I'm having trouble visualizing this; had to       sight along a ring-       shaped object towards a light to get some idea: the sun will be "going down"       all afternoon, but won't actually sink below the horizon, but go behind the       ring somewhere near it. At the same time we will see in the east half the       ring lit, and that half        will rise and circle around the sky until the front of it meets the western       horizon, and the sun will peek out from around the ring in the east.        Actually, a lot of the lit ring will be visible in the sky in the mornings and       evenings. It will be        brighter than the Moon per unit area because of the higher albedo and its       closeness. We would see the sun to the north or south of where the ring would       be in the sky, except the equinoxes. (I'm trying to work this out: the sun       appears to drift across        the fixed stars over the year, say one degree a day; the point where the       rotation of the ring crosses the ecliptic also drifts... at the same rate in       the opposite direction? so one edge of the ring should appear to cross the       half degree of the sun's face        in a quarter day?) We know total eclipses, when natural and rare, cause       excitement. I'm thinking two a year, especially when someone can be seen as       responsible for them, would be thought of as an annoyance. So design the       orbital matching the thickness        to the radius such that it's visual size is half its sun's. Noticeable, but       not disruptive.              Which brings me to the question of what ignorant natives would make of the       shape of the world. On Ringworld it was a table with an arch from which the       sun hung on a golden thread. Here they might quickly work out that their arch       is closer than their        sun. Also, being closer, the details on the rest of the ring would be       visible: their far side might be as close as our Moon is. How far around       would you have to go before you could look back and see the "map" of your home       there in the sky? The view        of any close orbitals visible in the sky might give the answer right then.        (But why would an orbital fall into barbarism with others close? Malevolence?)              --        -Jack              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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