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|    eripe to Greg Goss    |
|    Re: Spinning up a Ringworld.    |
|    12 Oct 17 07:02:18    |
      From: eripe.dk@gmail.com              On Friday, March 17, 2017 at 3:11:33 PM UTC+7, Greg Goss wrote:       > In one of the Ringworld novels, Either Louis or someone explaining to       > Louis points out the truly humungeous amount of hydrogen that would       > have been consumed spinning up the artifact.       >       > Bussard Ramjets are canon in this series, and were used by the       > builders of the Ringworld. So you have a humungeous supply of       > hydrogen in the solar wind.       >       > You've got the rudiments of a transport system along one rim wall.       > OK, you build a fleet of bussard ramjet locomotives, and use the       > transport system to bring them up to Bussard speed. After a while,       > you're using much of the "linear" accelerator's applied force to       > circularize the "orbit" of each locomotive. Once you ignite the       > ramjet using solar wind, the locomotive can now pull on each transport       > system impeller rather than be pushed by it. We've got       > superconductors, so the brief exposure to fusion heat in the impeller       > ring can be bled away without having to stutter the drive, as was my       > first idea.       >       > Once you're done, you discard all but a few hundred of these       > locomotives, remount the rest as attitude jets, and you're in action.       >       > Why are we talking about burning up a planet in a world where Bussard       > engines work? You have to accelerate much of that planetload of fuel       > as deadweight to use in the later portion of the spin-up, in and echo       > of the classic rocket equation (but in angular momentum and energy       > rather than linear)       > --       > We are geeks. Resistance is voltage over current.              You would gain a lot of energy too, by moving a Jupiter mass closer to the       sun. Jupiter is at 5 AU, but suppose the builders picked a planetary system       with one further away.              Than again, they might have a number of black hole drives, doing straight mc^2       energy conversion, and then you don't really have to worry about such things       as having enough power. After its spun up, you send the black holes away to       explode.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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