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|    alien8752@gmail.com to timj...@gmail.com    |
|    Re: Scaling up of long rod projectiles    |
|    07 Feb 18 20:04:42    |
      From: nuny@bid.nes              On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 10:31:29 PM UTC-8, timj...@gmail.com wrote:       > The practical maximum length to diameter ratio in current long rod       projectiles       > is typically thought of as somewhere between 30:1 and 40:1. If you were to       > scale up the projectile several times, could the long rod maintain the same       > aspect ratio?       >        > e.g. If you had a 75cm length/2.5cm diameter long rod and scaled it up 10x       > to 750cm/25cm, could it be expected to maintain the same degree of rigidity       > during acceleration, flight, and impact?       >        > The "Rods from God" concept envisioned tungsten rods of 6.1m length and 0.3m       > diameter, so at the very least they thought that a 20:1 aspect ratio was       > possible at that scale.               After seeing a video of an archer explaining how to account for arrow flex       when doing precision target shooting (arrows greatly exceed 20:1), I think       it's safe to say that there has to be a point of diminishing returns where       real materials just aren't        stiff enough. Where that point is I'm not sure but I will point out that given       the fact that the RFG concept was never actually tried out we might discover       that it doesn't scale up as far as we'd like it to.               What kinds of targets are you thinking of? Raw kinetic penetration should be       applicable in any non-Star Trek/Wars "we have shields" scenario but I'm pretty       sure scaling it up to kilometers-long relativistic penetrators for Really Big       Ships won't work        out unless the archer's tricks also scale up.                      Mark L. Fergerson              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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