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|    me_sdr@yahoo.com to johnny1...@gmail.com    |
|    Re: Nuclear bombardment aftermath, space    |
|    19 Feb 18 01:57:45    |
      On Saturday, February 17, 2018 at 1:30:08 AM UTC-5, johnny1...@gmail.com wrote:       > Hypothetically, imagine a starship comes across a human-inhabited,       Earth-like world, on which the former cities and centers of civilization have       been heavily nuked. Assume it's been at least decades since the bombs fell.       >        > My question is, what if any signs would differentiate the results of a big,       world-wide nuclear exchange by locals on the planet, Cold War style, from a       space-based bombardment carried out by outside forces? Would there be       anything that would strongly        indicate one scenario over the other?              The fallout areas would contain ions of nuclear material that did not fission       and also daughter compounds of materials that did. So you could, for example,       prove that the nukes that hit cities A and B had 41.2% U235 and a plutonium       239 trigger, City C        had 48.4% U235 and City D got nuked by a plutonium only tactical device. You       can further finger-print the plutonium source by the amount of pu240 and other       isotopes mixed in with the 239. The nuclear exchange will probably destroy       some weapons so City C        probably has some non-exploded ordnance with 41.2% U235 a facility that       contained(s) 41.2% U235, and a processing plant that was capable of separating       the isotopes. You can also look at the blast size and irradiated components       from the vehicle(bomb)that        held the physics package. If all of that matches then you can make a strong       case for city C firing the nukes at A and B in an exchange.               If there are no nuclear reactors, no nuclear waste storage containers, no       remnants of nuclear leaks, and no uranium mines then it is unlikely that the       natives had nukes. Since these are humans on an earth-like planet did they       travel there? They could        have transported nukes with them when they arrived.               The space launched weapons would need re-entry heat shields and probably       rockets or some way to aim. ICBMs also need reentry devices but they can be       much smaller. Remnants could still be found. A device designed to plunge       into an atmosphere vertically        would look a lot different from heat shields designed to slow down a vehicle.        If the vehicle did not slow down the heat shield would still be in front of       the physics package when the nuclear explosion occurs. That would change the       fallout pattern for        fission materials and you would find a separate fallout pattern for neutron       irradiated elements that were components of the heat shield.               If an interplanetary bombardment had any misses they could still be floating       around the system. If any detonated in space there would be some fallout on       asteroids and moons.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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