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   Dimensional Traveler to Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha   
   Re: Life on Europa in scifi?   
   27 Apr 18 11:48:51   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.sf.movies, rec.arts.sf.written   
   From: dtravel@sonic.net   
      
   On 4/27/2018 11:01 AM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:   
   > Robert Woodward  wrote in   
   > news:robertaw-76F4D5.09482327042018@news.individual.net:   
   >   
   >> In article ,   
   >>   Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> Your Name  wrote in   
   >>> news:pbugk7$4m8$1@gioia.aioe.org:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 2018-04-27 05:32:22 +0000, Thomas Koenig said:   
   >>>>> Your Name  schrieb:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The real problem is that scientists are blinkered into the   
   >>>>>> belief that life of any sort /must/ have water, which is   
   >>>>>> moronically silly.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Water has a range of qualities that make it suitable for   
   >>>>> complex molecules. There is a lot of it around, it has such   
   >>>>> low energy, it will be found in a reasonably pure state, it   
   >>>>> allows for condensation reactions with polar leaving groups,   
   >>>>> it has very strong hydrogen bonds, it dissolves salts...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> All true, on Earth. Many other planets and other life forms   
   >>>> are almost certainly completely different.   
   >>>   
   >>> I'm pretty sure the chemical properties of water will be the   
   >>> same no matter what planet you're on.   
   >>   
   >> The chemical properties of carbon compounds (and everything   
   >> else) will be the same as well. The physical properties (e.g.,   
   >> the state and density) could vary depending on air pressure and   
   >> temperature. I would suspect that a "heavy" Earth (i.e., solid   
   >> body 6-10 times Earth's mass) could have lakes of liquid carbon   
   >> dioxide.   
   >>   
   > Pressure and temperature may allow that. Why on earth you think the   
   > planet's mass would is beyond me.   
   >   
   I suspect that a larger, denser planet would have a higher surface   
   gravity which would help increase atmospheric density and therefore   
   pressure.   
      
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