XPost: rec.arts.sf.movies, rec.arts.sf.written   
   From: dtravel@sonic.net   
      
   On 4/27/2018 12:45 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:   
   > Dimensional Traveler  wrote in   
   > news:pbvraf$vqb$1@dont-email.me:   
   >   
   >> On 4/27/2018 11:01 AM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:   
   >>> Robert Woodward  wrote in   
   >>> news:robertaw-76F4D5.09482327042018@news.individual.net:   
   >>>   
   >>>> In article ,   
   >>>>    Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha    
   >>>>    wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Your Name  wrote in   
   >>>>> news:pbugk7$4m8$1@gioia.aioe.org:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 2018-04-27 05:32:22 +0000, Thomas Koenig said:   
   >>>>>>> Your Name  schrieb:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> The real problem is that scientists are blinkered into the   
   >>>>>>>> belief that life of any sort /must/ have water, which is   
   >>>>>>>> moronically silly.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Water has a range of qualities that make it suitable for   
   >>>>>>> complex molecules. There is a lot of it around, it has such   
   >>>>>>> low energy, it will be found in a reasonably pure state, it   
   >>>>>>> allows for condensation reactions with polar leaving   
   >>>>>>> groups, it has very strong hydrogen bonds, it dissolves   
   >>>>>>> salts...   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> All true, on Earth. Many other planets and other life forms   
   >>>>>> are almost certainly completely different.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I'm pretty sure the chemical properties of water will be the   
   >>>>> same no matter what planet you're on.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The chemical properties of carbon compounds (and everything   
   >>>> else) will be the same as well. The physical properties (e.g.,   
   >>>> the state and density) could vary depending on air pressure   
   >>>> and temperature. I would suspect that a "heavy" Earth (i.e.,   
   >>>> solid body 6-10 times Earth's mass) could have lakes of liquid   
   >>>> carbon dioxide.   
   >>>>   
   >>> Pressure and temperature may allow that. Why on earth you think   
   >>> the planet's mass would is beyond me.   
   >>>   
   >> I suspect that a larger, denser planet would have a higher   
   >> surface gravity which would help increase atmospheric density   
   >> and therefore pressure.   
   >>   
   > Certainly possible, even likely, but not guaranteed. I suspect   
   > there are at least some "super earths" with no atmosphere at all.   
   > And Bobbie implied it would be due to the higher mass, not   
   > secondary effects that may or may not be present.   
   >   
   Astronomers are pretty sure they've found a few Jovian size planets (at   
   least they started that size) that have no atmosphere so I don't see why   
   close in SuperEarths can't suffer the same fate.  ;)   
      
   --   
   Inquiring minds want to know while minds with a self-preservation   
   instinct are running screaming.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)