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   From: dtravel@sonic.net   
      
   On 5/1/2018 11:21 PM, Your Name wrote:   
   > On 2018-05-01 22:30:24 +0000, Dimensional Traveler said:   
   >   
   >> On 5/1/2018 11:18 AM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:   
   >>> Gene Wirchenko  wrote in   
   >>> news:88bhed578t3ec2ujs5ajnsgdk85tabsr48@4ax.com:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 20:48:49 -0400, J. Clarke   
   >>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:29:59 -0700, Gene Wirchenko   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 18:57:24 -0500, Cryptoengineer   
   >>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> [snip]   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> We have limited resources for searching. We do know one type   
   >>>>>>> of environment where life can arise, and its not a rare one.   
   >>>>>>> Can you present an argument for looking elsewhere, and suggest   
   >>>>>>> what we should look for?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> We already know about that one.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Thinking about how *else* life could arise can help us   
   >>>>>> understand   
   >>>>>> our case.  (Just as knowing more than one language helps one   
   >>>>>> understand one's own language better.)   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> One idea of mine is to look for systems that have   
   >>>>>> chemicals   
   >>>>>> converting back and forth.  (As with the oxygen - carbon   
   >>>>>> dioxide cycle in Earth's biosphere.)  This is, of course, no   
   >>>>>> guarantee of life, but it is a start.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Do you know of a method that will let us tell that "chemicals   
   >>>>> are converting back and forth" at interstellar distances?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Of course not.  I am no expert in the area.   
   >>>   
   >>> And yet, you criticize those who are for doing it wrong.   
   >>>   
   >> I think you are conflating Gene with 'Your Name' who has been bitching   
   >> about scientists spending money on stupid things and why are they only   
   >> looking for life like us.   
   >   
   > It's what some scientists are paid to do ... I'm not. The fact that they   
   > lazily take the easiest route isn't my fault.   
   >   
   And you still haven't made ANY kind of suggestion for how to look for   
   other life with the technology and knowledge we have.   
      
      
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