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   Fred J. McCall to Lofty Goat   
   Re: Propellant desity, scale, and lightw   
   09 Jun 18 09:33:20   
   
   XPost: sci.space.policy, sci.physics, sci.astro   
   From: fjmccall@gmail.com   
      
   Lofty Goat  wrote on Thu, 07 Jun 2018 21:25:05   
   -0500:   
      
   >On Tue, 05 Jun 2018 13:17:54 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >I'll try again in simpler words.   
   >   
      
   You know, I've let this sit for a while to see if I can bring myself   
   to overlook you being an arrogant, ill-mannered little prick.  I   
   can't.  How's this for simple words?  You can sit on your thumbs and   
   whistle for an answer, even though the answer is pretty obvious if   
   only you weren't such a thickie.  My experience with people in the   
   sci.physics group is that most of them are ill-mannered little shits.   
   Or perhaps that's just those who crosspost over here.  In any case,   
   you are no exception.   
      
      
      
   >   
   >So we get to the aerospike: expanding gas, and about 10% of the nozzle   
   >area of a bell-type engine, and the gas allowed to expand into the   
   >surrounding space once it leaves the vicinity of the nozzle.   
   >   
   >So I asked a perfectly simple question:   
   >   
      
   Which would appear to be the only sort of question your simple mind   
   can conceive.   
      
   >   
   >What causes the pressure against the vehicle, at the nozzles, which   
   >apparently has to be something 10x as great to provide the same thrust,   
   >to be great enough to make such an arrangement more efficient than a   
   >bell-nozzle engine?   
   >   
   >And no, "the air being one side of a virtual bell" does nothing to   
   >explain how greater force is transmitted to the rocket, seeing as how   
   >that air is not rigidly attached to the engine mount.   
   >   
      
   Pull your head out of your ass and think about it.   
      
   >   
   >And don't fucking carp about your consulting fee.  You *volunteered* a   
   >non-answer.  I'm surprised such conduct earns any sort of fee at all.   
   >   
      
   If you don't want to be presented with a bill, don't tell people what   
   they must provide you with.  And learn some manners.  Beggars can't be   
   choosers and you're the beggar here.  I choose to tell you to pound   
   sand.   
      
   >   
   >So... this newsgroup is populated by people who understand physics, and   
   >that is a physics question.  Instead of being a jackass you might have   
   >just answered it, or kept your peace and let someone else do so.   
   >   
      
   You think I'm somehow stopping other people from answering you?   
   Paranoid much?  If I could do that, at this point I would purely   
   because of the size of the stick up your ass.  But other people are   
   welcome to do what they want.  As I said, the answer is obvious if   
   only you weren't quite such a thickie.   
      
   >   
   >I'm still curious.  It's an interesting topic.   
   >   
      
   I find you quite 'curious' as well; a guy who doesn't know the answers   
   but thinks he can get them by being a rude little asshat.   
      
      
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