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   Message 45,512 of 45,986   
   Steve Willner to Fred J. McCall   
   Re: Towards routine, reusable space laun   
   18 Jun 18 20:36:35   
   
   XPost: sci.astro, sci.physics, sci.space.policy   
   From: willner@cfa.harvard.edu   
      
   > >At least three observatories with seven telescopes in active use will   
   > >be surprised to learn [that making a 6.5-m primary mirror is impossible]   
      
   That should have been five observatories and ten telescopes.  I   
   forgot some.  I won't swear I'm not still forgetting others.   
      
   In article <1q38id1rbuqh4k46gpk8o1m70o294nn3k8@4ax.com>,   
    Fred J. McCall  writes:   
   > You can do things with earthbound scopes that you cannot do with   
   > something you're going to shoot into space.   
      
   How does that apply to the current discussion?  Launching a 6.5-m   
   mirror monolithic should in principle be easier than having the same   
   size mirror deploy to the required precision.  The problem is making   
   it fit into the payload fairing.   
      
   > >  I wouldn't be surprised if there are "black" programs with the   
   > >same difficulty.   
      
   > Nope.  They use a mirror roughly the size of Hubble's.   
      
   The ones we know about used mirrors that size.  Anyone who actually   
   knows the current situation -- I don't -- wouldn't be allowed to say.   
      
   >  Remember, they're looking at something relatively close as such   
   > things go.   
      
   6.5-m mirrors would have advantages over smaller ones.  (I don't see   
   what distance has to do with anything.)  I've seen hints that some   
   have been built and deployed, but that may be salemanship.  Companies   
   vying for the JWST contract would have had an incentive to drop such   
   hints whether true or not.   
      
   >  The point is that a balloon does NOT replace a 'first stage'.   
      
   We agree on that.   
      
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