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   Message 45,544 of 45,986   
   Steve Willner to Fred J. McCall   
   Re: Towards routine, reusable space laun   
   25 Jun 18 21:17:06   
   
   XPost: sci.astro, sci.physics, sci.space.policy   
   From: willner@cfa.harvard.edu   
      
   In article <2frgidh5cfamkc9f50i79cts222ho7t09j@4ax.com>,   
    Fred J. McCall  writes:   
   > Oversize fairings are easy.   
      
   No doubt the JWST engineers wish you had told them that.   
      
   >>[mirror size of reconnaissance satellites]   
      
   > You can see the bloody things from Earth, after all.   
      
   See some of them, sure.  Why do you think the census is complete?   
   What observations (equipment) are needed to measure their sizes?   
      
   >  Past a certain point a bigger mirror doesn't help   
   > you for Earth observation.  Atmosphere speckle becomes the driving   
   > parameter and a bigger mirror doesn't help that.   
      
   Are you assuming LEO and visible wavelengths?  I don't see why either   
   one necessarily represents all reconnaissance satellites.  And even   
   with those assumptions, what about temporal resolution?  Taking short   
   exposures most certainly helps mitigate seeing effects.   
   ("Atmospheric speckle" is only one of those effects.)   
      
   > No, they wouldn't.  The next generation of recce satellites will use a   
   > mirror right around 2.4 meters; the same size used since KH-11.   
      
   Source?  All of them or only some?  Other than better sensors and   
   onboard processing, how do newer telescopes differ from the older   
   generation?  (As you no doubt know but some readers may not, two of   
   those were declared surplus and delivered to NASA.)   
      
   >   Distance has a lot to do with everything when   
   > it comes to telescopes.   
      
   What did you have in mind?  I'd have said the key parameters are   
   angular resolution, temporal resolution, and sensitivity.  Distance   
   affects requirements on those parameters, but I don't see that   
   distance _per se_ matters.   
      
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