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   From: ted@loft.tnolan.com   
      
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   Paul S Person   wrote:   
   >On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 22:45:31 -0500, Lynn McGuire   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >>On 9/20/2023 2:08 AM, Default User wrote:   
   >>> WolfFan wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Any more candidates?   
   >>>   
   >>> A modern example is the Innkeeper Chronicles series from "Ilona   
   >>> Andrews" (a husband/wife duo). It starts out seeming like an urban   
   >>> fantasy. Dina is the keeper of a magic Inn, where she travels through   
   >>> portals the marketplace with many strange creatures. A group of   
   >>> Vampires is expected for stay. And she detects that a Werewolf has   
   >>> moved into the neighborhood.   
   >>>   
   >>> But it turns out it's all supposed to be science fiction. The Inn is a   
   >>> living being that's psychially linked with Dina. The Vampires are   
   >>> humanoid warrious with fangs, from distant worlds, not undead   
   >>> bloodsuckers. The Werewolf is the descendent of bioengineered soldiers   
   >>> from yet another world.   
   >>>   
   >>> Now, the science is pretty soft, especially the biology (her sister has   
   >>> baby with a Vampire) and this would I think fall in the "science   
   >>> fantasy" category.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Brian   
   >>   
   >>No more softer than the Liadens having babies with Terrans.  Liadens are   
   >>from another Universe, not just another planet.  Of course, there is the   
   >>Jurassic Park argument, biology will find a way.   
   >   
   >I don't see that being from another Universe, as such, matters.   
   >   
   >Those who believe that the Universe is fully-determined or entirely   
   >mechanistic, for example, would, it seems to me, have to agree that,   
   >if two Universes had the exact same physics and the exact same   
   >starting conditions, then they would progress /identically/ in every   
   >way, simply because no alternatives exist. So, if the Liadans came   
   >from the Earth of the alternate Universe, then they and Terrans would   
   >be -- the same species. With the same history, the same languages, the   
   >same cultures.   
   >--   
      
   That's not the way the Liaden old universe worked.  For instance, the   
   value of Pi was not the same, setting aside a completely different set   
   of stars & planets.   
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