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   Paul S Person to tednolan   
   Re: science-based fantasy   
   23 Sep 23 09:04:18   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.sf.written   
   From: psperson@old.netcom.invalid   
      
   On 22 Sep 2023 15:34:08 GMT, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan   
   ) wrote:   
      
   >In article ,   
   >Paul S Person   wrote:   
   >>On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 22:45:31 -0500, Lynn McGuire   
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>On 9/20/2023 2:08 AM, Default User wrote:   
   >>>> WolfFan wrote:   
   >>>>    
   >>>>> Any more candidates?   
   >>>>    
   >>>> A modern example is the Innkeeper Chronicles series from "Ilona   
   >>>> Andrews" (a husband/wife duo). It starts out seeming like an urban   
   >>>> fantasy. Dina is the keeper of a magic Inn, where she travels through   
   >>>> portals the marketplace with many strange creatures. A group of   
   >>>> Vampires is expected for stay. And she detects that a Werewolf has   
   >>>> moved into the neighborhood.   
   >>>>    
   >>>> But it turns out it's all supposed to be science fiction. The Inn is a   
   >>>> living being that's psychially linked with Dina. The Vampires are   
   >>>> humanoid warrious with fangs, from distant worlds, not undead   
   >>>> bloodsuckers. The Werewolf is the descendent of bioengineered soldiers   
   >>>> from yet another world.   
   >>>>    
   >>>> Now, the science is pretty soft, especially the biology (her sister has   
   >>>> baby with a Vampire) and this would I think fall in the "science   
   >>>> fantasy" category.   
   >>>>    
   >>>>    
   >>>> Brian   
   >>>   
   >>>No more softer than the Liadens having babies with Terrans.  Liadens are    
   >>>from another Universe, not just another planet.  Of course, there is the    
   >>>Jurassic Park argument, biology will find a way.   
   >>   
   >>I don't see that being from another Universe, as such, matters.   
   >>   
   >>Those who believe that the Universe is fully-determined or entirely   
   >>mechanistic, for example, would, it seems to me, have to agree that,   
   >>if two Universes had the exact same physics and the exact same   
   >>starting conditions, then they would progress /identically/ in every   
   >>way, simply because no alternatives exist. So, if the Liadans came   
   >>from the Earth of the alternate Universe, then they and Terrans would   
   >>be -- the same species. With the same history, the same languages, the   
   >>same cultures.   
   >>--    
   >   
   >That's not the way the Liaden old universe worked.  For instance, the   
   >value of Pi was not the same, setting aside a completely different set   
   >of stars & planets.   
      
   Well, then interbreeding might indeed be a problem, depending on how   
   different they were from each other.   
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