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   Your Name to Paul S Person   
   Re: X-Men 97 Showrunner BUSTS Marvel, Ex   
   11 Aug 25 09:31:30   
   
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   From: YourName@YourISP.com   
      
   On 2025-08-10 15:33:05 +0000, Paul S Person said:   
   > On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 09:59:47 +1200, Your Name    
   > wrote:   
   >> On 2025-08-09 15:20:16 +0000, Paul S Person said:   
   >>> On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 16:28:23 +1200, Your Name    
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>> On 2025-08-09 01:59:48 +0000, Iéssica said:   
   >>>>> In article <1074mlj$m6da$3@dont-email.me>, weberm@polaris.net wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The Creator and Producer of X-Men '97, Beau DeMayo, went on   
   >>>>>> something>>>>> of a>>>>>> posting binge on X Saturday, describing in   
   >>>>>> detail the>>>>> problems he had with>>>>>> Marvel executives while   
   >>>>>> trying to do a comic>>>>> book show that respected fans>>>>>> and the   
   >>>>>> source material.  In the>>>>> process, he revealed some major   
   >>>>>> truths>>>>>> about what goes on behind>>>>> the scenes at Marvel, and   
   >>>>>> it explains a LOT about>>>>>> why so many MCU>>>>> projects go wrong.   
   >>>>>> This is a MUST SEE folks, and an>>>>>> inspiration>>>>> - clearly Beau   
   >>>>>> DeMayo gets it, and we need more people like him>>>>>>>>>>> in   
   >>>>>> Hollywood! #marvel #mcu #disney>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> https://youtu.be/ijrMi6HhGlU?si=j4HnsJ8x2kWDTcBt   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> We didn't need to be told this. It has been obvious to any comic   
   >>>>> fan>>>> since>>>> the middle of Marvel phase 2 (looking at you Age of   
   >>>>> Ultron>>>> and Ironman 3)>>>> that they have zero issue deviating   
   >>>>> wildly from the>>>> source material to the>>>> detriment of the story   
   >>>>> and the characters.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Hollyweird has been doing that for pretty much as long as it>>>   
   >>>> has>existed. The lazy morons making these "adaptations" (as well>>>   
   >>>> as>"reboots" and "resurrections") usually think they know better   
   >>>> than>>> the>person who had the talent to create the thing in the first   
   >>>> place as>>> to>what it "should" have been rather than what it actually   
   >>>> *is*.   
   >>>   
   >>> This doesn't just afflict movies.   
   >>   
   >> It doesn't even just afflict the video industry (TV and movies)   
   >> either,>although they are sometimes still to blame.   
   >>   
   >> For example, Elisabeth Beresford's books about the Wombles   
   >> were>originally released with illustrations of the creatures  with   
   >> flat>snouts, then along came the TV series which stupidly changed them   
   >> to>having pointed snouts, which then in turn meant re-prints of the   
   >> books>were also changed to the new design of the creatures. Now almost   
   >> nobody>remebers the original design of the creatures.   
   >>    
   >>   
   >> There are also MANY examples were a book series has had the   
   >> cover>design changed mid-run, meaning collectors were faced with   
   >> either>having a mis-matched set or having to re-buy the books they   
   >> already>owned. (The same happened with VHS and DVD releases of movies   
   >> and TV>shows.)   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> Disney went through a phase of DVDs of its animated classics that   
   >>> were>> "restored to better than their original brilliance". A fair   
   >>> number of>> fans (or fanatics) of Disney animation complained about how   
   >>> they looked.   
   >>>   
   >>> I have two CDs purporting to be the same as the original LP Motion   
   >>> Picture Soundtrack to /Mary Poppins/, both awaiting disposal. I ended   
   >>> up digitizing the LP because the geniuses-in-charge never bothered to   
   >>> listen to the LP, they just read the track list. Don't get me wrong:   
   >>> either CD will do fine for someone who never heard the LP. But they   
   >>> aren't the same.   
   >>>   
   >>> And then there's /The Complete Musketeers/, a DVD set of the early   
   >>> 70's films, whose makers never bothered to watch the films in any   
   >>> form, and so did not show the scenes shot in daylight to be shown as   
   >>> happening in darkness in darkness. In the theater, the results were so   
   >>> dark that the screen was almost entirely black. On the DVD you can see   
   >>> every single detail. Some of which details do not make any sense when   
   >>> you can see what is going on.   
   >>>   
   >>> And so on, and so on. The DVD of /The Taming of the Shrew/ (Burton)   
   >>> omits the line "He who is giddy sees the world turn 'round", making   
   >>> the response appear pointless.   
   >>> The reason, of course, is that they are treating the films as   
   >>> /product/, on which no real effort is to be lavished because, after   
   >>> all, "it's just a movie". No sense of pride in their own work at all.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>> Idiotic "Political Correctness" has these days only added another   
   >>>> layer>>> of stupid changes.  :-\   
   >>>   
   >>> Sometimes with interesting results.   
   >>>   
   >>> And, anyway, didn't Trump issue an Executive Order about that?   
   >>   
   >> Despite what Trump the Chump likes to believe, he doesn't control   
   >> the>entire world ... he doesn't even control the USA thanks to people   
   >> with>actual brains blocking most of his stupid ideas. His ditching of   
   >> the>"Political Correctness" stupidity is the *ONLY* sane thing he has   
   >> ever>come up with.   
   >   
   > So sane that Hegseth is apparently trying to turn rebels and traitors   
   > back into heroes.   
   >   
   > However, toning down any /actual/ stupidity is always a good thing.   
   >   
   >> The BBC, for example, will continue to fulfil checkbox quotas and   
   >> do>silly things like gender/ethnicity-swap existing characters.   
   >   
   > IIRC, Dr Who can reformulate himself to look like anyone. So some   
   > characters are inherently flexible.   
      
   Only as a retro-fit to enable the BBC to now gender-swap the characters   
   to appease the Politically Correct morons and enforced fulfil quotas.   
      
      
      
   >> There are a couple of politicians here in New Zealand trying to do   
   >> the>same thing by having everyone treated the same, but the   
   >> loud-mouthed>"PC" fools are of course making a massive fuss about how   
   >> it is>"anti-Maori" because it would mean they no longer get special   
   >> treatment>simply because they are Maori (i.e. reverse-racist treatment).   
   >   
   > Depends on the motive.   
   >   
   > If the motive is to celebrate the arrival of equality in society, that   
   > is one thing.   
   >   
   > If the motive is to return to the bad old days, that is something   
   > else.   
   >   
   > In the long run, I would /expect/ a truly egalitarian society to be --   
   > truly egalitarian. But the USA is nowhere near that point. Perhaps in   
   > 500 years ...   
      
   Try 50,000 years or more. Humans are simply too stupid, too greedy, and   
   too selfish.   
      
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