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   Dimensional Traveler to Your Name   
   Re: Aye, aye, Sir!   
   26 Sep 25 04:55:14   
   
   From: dtravel@sonic.net   
      
   On 9/25/2025 11:38 PM, Your Name wrote:   
   > On 2025-09-25 22:39:48 +0000, f6k said:   
   >   
   >> Hello everyone,   
   >>   
   >> I am watching again everything from Star Trek TOS to the new Star Trek   
   >> Strange   
   >> New Wolds. I'm currently at season 7 of Star Trek The Next Generation,   
   >> episode   
   >> Lower Decks (which, I believe, gave the inspiration for the great Star   
   >> Trek   
   >> Lower Decks show, which I deeply love).   
   >>   
   >> I have a question that, maybe, the savy trekers can answer: in TOS,   
   >> everyone   
   >> says "Aye, aye, Sir!" to acknowledge an order. But I've learned from   
   >> Star Trek   
   >> Lower Decks that we "now" have to say "Aye, Sir!" and not "Aye, aye".   
   >> In episode 15 season 7 of TNG, "Lower Decks", Cmd Riker, after a   
   >> drill, reminds Ensign Lavelle that "one 'aye' is sufficient" when   
   >> responding to orders. The dialog goes that way:   
   >>   
   >>> Cmd Riker: Lavelle!   
   >>> Ensign Lavelle: Sir!   
   >>> Cmd Riker: Resume previous course and speed.   
   >>> Ensign Lavelle: Aye, aye, Sir.   
   >>> Cmd Riker: One 'aye' is sufficient acknowledgment, Ensign.   
   >>   
   >> The question is bothering me a little, I must say. No matter how hard   
   >> I've been paying attention, I haven't figured out why. Why one 'aye'   
   >> has become   
   >> sufficient, instead of two? Even, why two 'aye' are now, apparently,   
   >> unwelcome   
   >> when it was the norm in TOS? In fact, this is what was also mentionned   
   >> in one of the episodes of the series Lower Deck (sorry, I can't recall   
   >> which one).   
   >>   
   >> Thank you for your insights.   
   >>   
   >> -f6k   
   >   
   > One "aye" is slightly faster to say, which could be important in an   
   > emergency or batle situation.   
   >   
   > Realistically, it most likely just lazy script writers, probably no   
   > longer getting paid by the word.  :-)   
   >   
   > Technically in "aye aye sir" back in the days of sailing ships, the   
   > first "aye" confrism the order has been heard and said, while the second   
   > "aye" confrims the order will be carried out immediately. the singulr   
   > "aye, sir" would normally be used when agreeing with or replying to a   
   > sneior officer's statement, while the doulbe "aye aye, sir" is used when   
   > acknowledging and performing an order.   
   >   
   Also consider that at the time TOS was made there were still a LOT of   
   veterans from WW2 around, so there was more experience in how things   
   were actually done in a military.  It shows in little ways like "Aye   
   aye" and yeoman constantly handing Kirk paperwork to read and sign.  ;)   
      
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