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|    Blueshirt to All    |
|    The War Between the Land and the Sea [Re    |
|    22 Dec 25 11:05:11    |
      XPost: rec.arts.drwho       From: blueshirt@indigo.news              "The War Between the Land and the Sea" was obviously going to be       a political allegory with plenty of propagandisations… so all in       all, it was fairly predictable how this mini-series would play       out once we knew the people writing it and its premise. There       was nothing in the five episodes that caused me any surprises...       One thing that was missing though was an actual WAR!              The Message: Humans are destroying the planet - TICK              Sea Devils are not Devils: They are cute fish-reptiles with       feelings - TICK              Human-Sea Devil relationship: TICK              Unnecessary Soap Opera family members: TICK              US Military Warmonger: TICK              Etc...                     "The War Between the Land and the Sea" started out interesting,       and looked quite good. There was a lot of promise in the first       episodes, but there needed to be huge leaps of faith to believe       the characterisations and their reasoning in this series, so as       the narrative progressed and the plot got thinner, it sunk to       the bottom fairly fast, like a lead anchor. As this was       basically the 'Barclay & Salt Show' everything else was pretty       much just your stereotypical political types, military       warmongers, corrupt rich industrialists and UNIT... in an       eco-drama by the numbers. Five episodes was overkill for this       and the story might have worked a lot better had it been       much tighter, say two episodes or a 90 minute TV movie.              Barclay seemed the most unlikely character to lead negotiations       on behalf of the world, and quite frankly, I wasn't convinced by       Russell Tovey's performance at all. The first two cliff-hangers       were basically Barclay just saying a reluctant yes to an       outlandish proposition. Which might have conveyed his unwilling       participation but they were lame episode endings for a series       that wanted people to come back for more... The only reason       Russell Tovey wasn't playing a gay man in this was so that his       character could have a sexual relationship with Salt. Other than       that, it was perfect RTD tick-boxing; Barclay had a mixed race       family and a non-binary child... neither of whom did anything       much as it turned out, bar provide the soap opera family drama.       In RTD Land, everyone has to have their home life shown to prove       their are real characters, even if they are irrelevant to the       actual story. If you want to write Coronation Street Russell, go       write it! Barclay's family literally had no impact on the story       whatsoever. So why waste our time on them?              Salt started off as the angry fish-lizard whose habitat and       off-spring had been destroyed by humans polluting the oceans.       However, once she got a taste of life on the surface - and a       taste of Barclay - she became totally different. By the final       episode, a large percentage of the Sea Devils had been killed       off and Salt seemed happy enough to tell the humans that they       had won the war... and then after some kissing in the waves swam       off with the Homo-Aqua convert Barclay to live happily ever       after at the bottom of the deep blue sea.              Kate Lethbridge-Stewart got a big role in this series, which is       great for her, as it's a bigger role than the character       deserves. But she didn't add much to the proceedings overall       either. She just came across as an unstable depressed woman with       hallucinations that needed to blackmail her GP for increased       medication to get through the day. Then she threatened to kill       some guy on a beach because he dropped a plastic bottle! WTF?       Some UNIT hero!              As for Kate's toyboy soldier getting killed... clearly he was       the disposable one out of the UNIT ensemble. Which says a lot       about his whole character during the past few years! He was       Colonel Nobody. I'd have killed off the wheelie woman too but of       course you can't do that sort of thing these days or people       would protest about an anti-wheelchair agenda, or something. The       funny thing is, in "Doctor Who" Shirley Bingham was the       scientific advisor but in this series she's handling diplomatic       relations between the humans and fish-lizards... and even then       she doesn't really do much. But it's good to show people in       wheelchairs, inclusivity and all that, so we'll keep her around       for next time... she might even get to roll up that TARDIS ramp       one day.              Whilst UNIT not calling The Doctor in was strange for this       mini-series set in the "Doctor Who" universe. So what, the       Doctor just sat idly by and watched all that garbage rain down       on London and not wonder where it came from? Or saw on the TV       news that UNIT were part of the negotiations between mankind and       his old foes to stop a war, but just said "put the Kettle on       Donna, I'll leave them to it". Nah sorry, that just doesn't work       for me.              RTD claims this was his big idea when he returned to producing       Doctor Who, well he can shove his big ideas if they're going to       keep turning out to be badly plotted messes like this. He might       be good at writing gay dramas, obviously he understands that       sort of stuff as it's something he has the feel for, but as a       sci-fi/fantasy writer he isn't at the races. This could, and       should, have been so much better.              Overall, for a series that was interesting and had potential, it       all got a bit muddled and the end result was something entirely       forgettable... I'd give it a 3/10 rating, and one of those       points is only because the Sea Devils were not leaping around       like Super Mario as they were in their last on-screen outing.                     Quote of the series:              Human: "You ate our dogs!"       Sea Devil: "You eat our fish!"              Yep, that's definitely a BAFTA winning script we've got here!              Notes:              Humans are accused of dumping their rubbish and excrement into       the sea... which is true, but fish also shit in the sea and       nobody blames them for polluting the oceans! I presume the Sea       Devils also shit in the sea too, or under it somewhere... or do       they secretly come onto land to take a dump?              Barclay and Salt getting it on was something akin to the Madam       Vastra-Jenny situation. As actors are playing the roles it all       seems perfectly normal to the viewer that two characters are       having a relationship in a drama... but, humans and       lizards/reptiles are not supposed to have sexual relations with       one another and only deviants would write such stuff. This is       blindsiding the audience and making such perverted acts seem       normal. Which is pretty much what those type of writers try to       do. Normalise deviancy!              Because of the happy ending for Barclay & Salt, I'm not sure now       what actually was the main message of this series. Was it really       all about the environment, or was this basically just a       human-lizard romance story whilst virtue signalling       environmental concerns?              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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