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   Mack A. Damia to ahk@chinet.com   
   Re: The Gay Divorcee (1934)   
   02 Aug 21 12:55:46   
   
   From: drsteerforth@yahoo.com   
      
   On Mon, 2 Aug 2021 18:56:08 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"   
    wrote:   
      
   >Mack A. Damia  wrote:   
   >>Mon, 2 Aug 2021 01:37:07 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"    
   wrote:   
   >>>Mack A. Damia  wrote:   
   >>>>Sun, 1 Aug 2021 21:11:30 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" :   
   >>>>>Mack A. Damia  wrote:   
   >   
   >>>>>>After Fred died, Ginger got bitter and said some unkind things about   
   >>>>>>him.   
   >   
   >>>>>>Something about that he didn't give her enough credit and was a task   
   >>>>>>master during rehearsals.  He wasn't particularly kind to her. . . .   
   >   
   >>>>>Oh, c'mon. Rehearsals aren't "kind". Everyone has always said the lead   
   >>>>>dancer or choreographer is a taskmaster. Same thing was said about Gene   
   >>>>>Kelly.   
   >   
   >>>>All I know is that Ginger had some unkind remarks about Fred after he   
   >>>>died.  That's my point.   
   >   
   >>>>I have no idea how he actually treated her.   
   >   
   >>>I'm disputing her expectations of a rehearsal.   
   >   
   >>You must realize that she was elderly when she made the comments, and   
   >>her better days in film were long-gone.   
   >   
   >>Too much free time on her hands, too many memories, and maybe not   
   >>enough "glory"?  She was 83 years old when she died in 1995.  She must   
   >>have felt that Fred got more acclaim than she did.   
   >   
   >There aren't too many movie pairings from the 1930s remembered as fondly   
   >as Fred and Ginger decades later. I don't think she was denied acclaim.   
   >Those movies weren't beloved for their scripts!   
      
   Nobody wants to spoil a money-making fairly tale -  especially   
   Hollywood.  I recall reading about Ginger's criticisms of Fred after   
   he died, but I have yet to find anything.  I remember thinking, "sour   
   grapes". I will keep looking.  But much that was said about them,   
   especially in a negative light, was dreamt up by the publicity   
   department to keep them in the news, but Ginger's comments were said   
   much later.   
      
   Also, she died over twenty-five years ago.  Details of her   
   relationship with Astaire have been blurred and distorted - and I   
   really don't recall the details of what I read many years ago.   
      
   >>Did Fred choreograph the routines?  I think he did.  He collaborated   
   >>with Hermes Pan (1910 - 1990).   
   >   
   >>You know how older people complain.  Just ask my housekeeper.   
   >   
   >Hah!   
      
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