From: jwkenne@attglobal.net   
      
   On 2014-05-04 03:03:51 +0000, Dorothy J Heydt said:   
      
   > In article <782e1458-f73f-4b9b-99b6-825d2330be01@googlegroups.com>,   
   > William Vetter wrote:   
   >> On Saturday, May 3, 2014 12:45:40 PM UTC-4, David Friedman wrote:   
   >>> On 5/3/14, 12:46 AM, William Vetter wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Shockley is well-remembered for his Nobel Laureate sperm bank and   
   >> similar insane eugenics shit.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Why do you regard a Nobel sperm bank as an insane idea? Obviously there   
   >>>   
   >>> are lots of very smart people who don't have Nobels, but the fact that   
   >>>   
   >>> someone does have one is surely pretty strong evidence he's smart. If a   
   >>>   
   >>> woman wants to conceive by sperm donation, doesn't it make sense for her   
   >>>   
   >>> to want a donor with heritable chatacteristics she wants her child to   
   >>>   
   >>> have�of which intelligence might well be one?   
   >>>   
   >> I do not believe that Nobel Prize mojo is an inheritable trait, and I   
   >> would not equate it in any direct way to supreme intelligence.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Putting it in terms of Nobels is a bit of a publicity trick and sharply   
   >>>   
   >>> reduces the number of suitable donors, but what's wrong with the   
   >>>   
   >>> underlying idea?   
   >>>   
   >> As I have been led to understand Robert Shockley's eugenics idea, he   
   >> believed that intelligence was concentrated in the masculine principle   
   >> of Caucasians.   
   >>   
   > Alas, yes.   
   >   
   > There was (maybe still is) an eminent Professor of Virology at UC   
   > Berkeley. He has a building named after him, and I'm sorry to   
   > say I can't remember his name. (If I were on campus I could take   
   > you straight to the building, but that's another matter.)   
   > Anyway. he damn near invented modern virology.   
   >   
   > However, when AIDS came into the picture, he took the stand that   
   > AIDS could not POSSIBLY be caused by HIV or any other virus, and   
   > stubbornly stuck to his guns for years. He must have been   
   > brilliant. Still, he was dead wrong and if I were looking for a   
   > sperm donor, I would not have picked him.   
      
   Some pretty bright people are members of Shakespeare-denial cults, too.   
      
   --   
   John W Kennedy   
   "But now is a new thing which is very old--   
   that the rich make themselves richer and not poorer,   
   which is the true Gospel, for the poor's sake."   
    -- Charles Williams. "Judgement at Chelmsford"   
      
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