From: julie@pascal.org   
      
   On Friday, June 6, 2014 3:35:35 AM UTC-6, mumble wrote:   
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   > >>>>> On Friday, May 30, 2014 10:32:48 AM UTC-4, J.Pascal wrote:   
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   > >>>>> does mumble = nursebee ?   
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   > >>>> You might be better served to ask yourself whether the offered comments   
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   > >>> I've played this game with you before.   
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   > >>> You haven't fooled anybody for more than a week in the last eight years.   
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   > >>> Everybody at Scottrade has a list of your usernames.   
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   > >> Really?  Why don't you post them then, smart-guy.   
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   > >> You post your work asking for comments, and the minute you receive some   
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   > >> useful comments that aren't all praise, you react defensively by   
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   > >> shouting "troll!".  Put up or shut up.   
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   > > There is a shapeshifter on investment websites that I've known for 8   
   years.  He is nursebee/sheila popeck/Risk_of_Ruin/mumble/grumble   
   JLo/snakedot/./Muzzled--TheAttackOnFreedomOfExpression and at least a dozen   
   other usernames.  Nursebee is one of his    
   earliest, so that is what most people call him.  Like you, he likes to play   
   the gender ambiguous games, which made me suspect.  I was asking someone to   
   vouch for you, that they knew you, which nobody did.   
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   > I know nothing about these "investment websites" you refer to.   
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   > Here's my point: If you can't handle constructive criticism, then don't    
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   > post work asking for it.   
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   > The source of the criticism is irrelevant, what is relevant is whether    
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   > or not it is correct, whether it helps you toward better writing or not.   
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   > To ignore criticism and seek to discredit the critic instead is not    
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   > useful, it is avoidance, and at best it does nothing to improve your    
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   Honestly, mumble... as I said... this is assuming that you have the ability to   
   help anyone.  It's not illegitimate to ask where you're coming from with a   
   criticism in order to help evaluate it.   
      
   Your first comment isn't helpful, unless "this really sucks" is helpful...   
   which it isn't past a single data point of a single reader that thinks it   
   sucks.  Scrap it, paragraph by paragraph... is just saying "this really sucks"   
   several times over again...   
     It doesn't add up to more than 1 data point, no matter how often you repeat   
   it or in how many literary/creative ways you say it.   
      
   Your second comment reads like "now look how erudite I am" (just giving you   
   constructive criticism here) and you pronounce rules... and if you're   
   pronouncing "rules" and "musts" and "I am expounding the profound truths of   
   prose"... well then, it    
   justifies asking for your credentials.   
      
   Do you write?  How does applying these profound truths of prose work for you   
   in practice?    
      
   To William: My life is busy and stressed and reviewing anything is work so I   
   tend to barely skim rather than read and I've never quite gotten the bits with   
   the cats or what it's all about.  However, I trust that you know what it's all   
   about.  And I went    
   back to read what you'd written and while I have not the first clue what on   
   *earth* demon from h*ll this guy is expecting the kitten to turn into, or why,   
   the passage itself is perfectly fine and clearly symbolic of various things   
   like denial of our    
   weaknesses and our desire for the cover-up.   
      
   Also, if you're blocked, anything that gets you writing is good even if you   
   eventually throw it out.     
      
   -Julie   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)