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|    William Vetter to C. E. Gee    |
|    Re: Definition of 'published'    |
|    07 Jun 14 10:01:59    |
      From: mdhangton@gmail.com              On Saturday, June 7, 2014 9:13:44 AM UTC-4, C. E. Gee wrote:       >        >        > In the scientific community, peer review is standard procedure.       >        > Self-published works of fiction that have not been approved by a neutral       editor/publisher should be viewed with the same disdain as some of the        scientific theories advanced by unqualified crackpots. That is to say,       sometimes laughable, but certainly        not "real" science.       >               I was involved with Porous Silicon Carbide a little bit, which was like       Polywater or Cold Fusion except a much smaller deal, so I know the politics of       that sort of thing, and I've had the guy who invented it shout at me over the       phone. And he put my        name as ninth out of ten on the masthead of an MRS report for several months       of pointless work without my permission for which I will be eternally       disinterested. What passes for peer review at the Materials Research Society       meetings they have in Boston        every second year is the section chairmen select 3 attendees at random (what I       mean is that they probably won't be people who have the same specialty and can       understand a lot about what they're reading) who scan over the manuscripts in       their hotel rooms        for 10 minutes, and maybe say the references are in the wrong format or       something. And he wasn't an unqualified crackpot; he just sold an idea to       some funding agencies that was geometrically impossible and everybody else       knew it, but afterward everybody        followed the money, and a lot of time and resources were spent on nonsense.              Now, I could write about some of the other situations where peer review works       poorly (which I deleted just now), but I don't care to because some of these       guys will bash me again. But I'll tell you that it's not without its flaws       either.                                                                                            >        >        > I follow the "Science Fiction Writing" page on Faceback. The moderator of       that group is swamped with ads for "self published" fiction. These self       published author types are a real problem.       >        >        >        > Most of their writing is absolute drek. But, for some reason, they don't       seem to understand that. That's why peer review is so important.        >        >        >        > Now, I have a self-published short work of SF in my blog. But it's a joke!        It really is a joke, and I haven't promoted it in any way except as a joke.       >        >        >        > And sometime soon I'm going to put an "OFT REJECTED" story in my blog. But       I have no intention to promote it. In fact, I'll preface said story with an       explanation as to why the story was rejected so many times, and I'll also       apologize to my readers        for subjecting them to such a work.       >        >        >        > Now, I'm going to make another apology here. Forgive me for saying this if       you're a critic, editor, or publisher.       >        >        >        > When I say "peer review," I mean peer review. For it's been my observation       that many editors, critics, publishers, are in actuality, writers. But       they're often too undisciplined or laid back to write much. So they pour over       other writers works. And        in my communications with editors, critics, publishers, they may be a bit       lazier than "other writers," but they always seem to me to be highly       intelligent. Thus, when they approve or reject some work, it means something.       >        >        >        > Just sayin'       >        >        >        > C.E. Gee       >        >        >        > http://www.kinzuakid.blogspot.com              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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