From: mdhangton@gmail.com   
      
   On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 6:07:30 AM UTC-4, mumble wrote:   
   > On 06/09/2014 11:22 AM, William Vetter wrote:   
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   > > On Sunday, June 8, 2014 10:40:30 PM UTC-4, Michelle Bottorff wrote:   
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   > >>>> To ignore criticism and seek to discredit the critic instead is not   
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   > >>>> useful, it is avoidance, and at best it does nothing to improve your   
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   > >>>> writing skills.   
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   > >>> Honestly, mumble... as I said... this is assuming that you have the   
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   > >>> ability to help anyone.  It's not illegitimate to ask where you're   
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   > >>> coming from with a criticism in order to help evaluate it.   
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   > >> It didn't look helpful to me either.   
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   > > They are not critiques.  They are zingers.   
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   > > If he had ever been involved in some kind of workshop where people   
   critique one another's manuscripts, they would resemble critiques.   
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   > Criticism does not involve pandering to the desire of the manuscript    
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   > writer to be praised, it is rather commentary which is intended to help    
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   > the manuscript writer improve.   
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   > No, I have never been involved in one of the "workshop" sessions in    
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   > which people take turns patting each other's backs, but I have been    
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   > involved in formal document reviews, which are a face-to-face meeting    
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   > where the author fields comments from multiple reviewers, and in some    
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   > cases benefits immensely from the kindly eviscerations provided by their    
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   So you're some kind of proposal or corporate document reviewer and you've not   
   involved with fiction, and you've never tried to write fiction, and you've   
   never been involved with any kind of author of fiction, and you have contempt   
   for people who attempt    
   to compose fiction and fail to present you with what you want?   
   And you want to help people by making them realize that they'll always be   
   losers unless they present you specifically with what you want?   
   I think I've got an accurate picture now.   
      
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