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   Michelle Bottorff to Remus Shepherd   
   Re: Definition of 'published'   
   12 Jun 14 15:01:53   
   
   From: mbottorff@lshelby.com   
      
   Remus Shepherd  wrote:   
      
   >    I'm trying to decide what the criteria is for 'unknown'.  I'm thinking   
   > of classifying fame in logarithmic stages, like the Kardeshev scale:   
   >   
   > Author Fame 1:  Your significant other sometimes reads your work.  (1)   
   > Author Fame 2:  You have a few friends who have read your work.  (~10)   
   > Author Fame 3:  You have been to writing workshops and other venues and have   
   > made a few dozen connections to people who have read (or have offered to   
   read)   
   > your work.  (~100)   
      
      
   >    I think someone could have a successful Kickstarter campaign just from   
   > level 2 or higher.  It depends on how much money you are asking for, who   
   > your friends are, and how good you are at advertising yourself.   
      
   I think I'm about a 3, I've sold my requisite 3 pieces at pro rates, but   
   two were in the wrong genres, and the other one was for a publication   
   marketed to the educational market in Canada... not a great venue for   
   getting one's name out to the general sf buying public.   
      
   And I am very, very, very awful at advertising myself.   
      
      
   >    As a counter example, I'm solidly in Fame 4 and I don't think I could get   
   > a Kickstarter off the ground because I'm an irascible asshole.  Even those   
   > in Fame 5 are struggling to get a larger audience and may not be well-known   
   > enough to use their fans as a resource.  We don't all have Sea Wasp's   
   > silver-tongued charm.  :)  But some authors *do*.   
   >   
   >    Hmn.  Maybe what we need is a way to quantify social/marketing skill.   
   >   
   >    Anyway, my point is that almost nobody is completely 'unknown'.  It   
   > depends on your personal skills and situation.   
      
   I can't argue this point.  :)   
      
   > Which means that any advice   
   > anyone gives might be useless to others.   
      
   True.   
      
      
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