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   Leszek Karlik to All   
   Re: Plausible Characters?   
   28 Jul 14 21:20:19   
   
   From: leszek.karlik@gmail.com   
      
   On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 23:18:52 +0200, Shawn Wilson    
   wrote:   
      
   [...]   
   >> > Hero's friend.  Kim Kinnison clone- smart, strong, handsome,   
   >> charismatic, nice, whole package.  Naval intelligence officer of the   
   >> adventurous type, NOT of the George Smiley persuasion.  Very good at   
   >> undercover work.   
   >> A bit too good to be true. So perfect I want to smack him.   
   > Nah, he's too nice.  He is perfect.   
      
   His name should be Martin Sue. :-)   
      
   [...]   
   >> > Bosun.  Been there, done that, multiple times.  Old salt.   
   [...]   
   >> This character could be female. Actually she should be female.   
      
   > Not in my head, and it would raise the question 'why didn't grandpa fuck   
   > her'?   
      
   Because she didn't want him? Had a husband, or a wife, or wanted to   
   keep it professional?   
      
   > Grandpa is deliberately modelled in James T. Kirk,   
      
   Did he have a magic wand of mind control? :-)   
      
   [...]   
   >> > Ship's clerk.  Marine.  Babyfaced (cf Audie Murphy), extremely shy,   
   [...]   
   >> Ooh, or if this character was female that would certainly subvert   
   >> expectations.   
   >   
   > No female marines- not strong enough.   
      
   So, you have a highly advanced civilisation able to give people   
   colour-changing   
   skin and able to regenerate any bodily damage, but they can't make women   
   which   
   are as strong as men?   
      
   Seems highly unplausible. ("We have a civiliation that is very advanced   
   technologically, but we will intentionally keep some of the problems, so   
   that   
   the armed forces have the same dynamics as warriors in stone-age societies   
   where they had to run around with swords.")   
      
   [...]   
   >> Give her a flaw.   
   > Sorry, no.  I don't believe in characters having 'flaws'.   
      
   I think there's a significant misunderstanding of the word 'flaw' here.   
      
   > Personalities, sure.  But not overt flaws.  How many people do you know   
   > in the real world (or fiction) with overt flaws?   
      
   Most of my friends and acquaintainces have flaws. I have them.   
      
   --   
   Leszek 'Leslie' Karlik   
   http://leslie.hell.pl/   
      
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