From: willreich_77@yahoo.com   
      
   On Thursday, July 31, 2014 10:14:05 PM UTC-4, Shawn Wilson wrote:   
   > On Thursday, July 31, 2014 6:28:27 PM UTC-7, J.Pascal wrote:   
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   > > > > > It doesn't matter what the commander thinks is a good and useful   
   idea.  We did, in fact, put women directly in harm's way for specific   
   utilitarian reasons in Iraq.    
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   > > > Snicker, pick ONE "it doesn't matter what the commander thinks" or "for   
   specific utilitarian reasons in Iraq".  Who do you think MADE those decisions,   
   hmmm?     
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   > > Ultimately the politicians do.     
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   > No, politicians were not making tactical decisions in Iraq...   
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   It was politicians who made the decision for the Israeli military. The   
   commanders did not say "take the women out of combat." The Orthodox political   
   parties caused the _government_ to make that decision.    
      
   I realize that you are dealing with several different critics but answering   
   one thing at a time would be helpful. Also, policy decisions are not tactical   
   decisions. If the DoD said "no women in such a such a role" the local   
   commanders would have to    
   comply. Or seem to comply if they could get away with it.    
      
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   Will in New Haven   
      
      
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   > If your reading comprehension is so pathetic that you can't understand a   
   series of events... military making military decisions to put women on   
   check-points and needing to do militarily *stupid* stuff to conform to idiotic   
   *political* dictations of    
   policy, that is not my problem, it's yours.    
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   > YOUR problem (aside from being hysterical...) is that you directly   
   contradicted your own previous argument- "It doesn't matter what the commander   
   thinks is a good and useful idea."   
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   > Obvious it DOES matter...   
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   > > > >  We lost an entire busload of female soldiers in one attack...   
   twenty-some dead women all at once...  because while the *men* stayed   
   overnight at the checkpoints because it was *too dangerous* to return to the   
   main base between shifts, the *   
   female* soldiers couldn't remain out there bunked with the guys so they loaded   
   them all up on a bus every single day and drove them out and drove them back.    
   This was not a *military* decision... it was pure politics and it got   
   something like 26 women    
   killed.   
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   > > > Uh, no.  Now you are just on a rant.     
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   > > If you are saying I'm lying about those deaths and the circumstance around   
   them you can take your DD214 and fuck yourself with it because you've outed   
   yourself as a brother-fucker.   
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   > YOU ARE ON AN IRRELEVANT RANT.  It DOESN'T MATTER that some people got   
   killed.  That scenario doesn't say one goddamn thing about whether women make   
   good soldiers.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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