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   Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) to Jymesion   
   Re: Do you revise old work or start some   
   21 Aug 14 08:04:56   
   
   From: seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com   
      
   On 8/20/14 9:54 PM, Jymesion wrote:   
   > On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 03:28:32 -0700 (PDT), Nicky   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> I know pretty well everything in the US seems to be different, but a   
   handset and a pay as you go sim card cost very little and might get round the   
   problem if it is only for verification.   
   >   
   > I've been burned in the past by having a telephone number.   
   >   
   > Companies can claim they contacted you or you agreed to something   
   > during a call. It's impossible to fight such claims if they have on   
   > file a phone number which is/was actually yours.   
   >   
      
   	Well, I've never had any such thing ever happen to me, and I've had a   
   phone number all my adult life -- more than one number, in recent years.   
   Not saying you didn't have these issues -- you would know what you   
   experienced and I wouldn't -- but I really don't see how they can manage   
   that just by HAVING your phone number; the phone book contains almost   
   everyone's phone number, so does that mean they can commit everyone in   
   the phone book to their services? I really doubt it. Automated spam   
   calls can detect an answering machine and they hang up automatically; if   
   what you describe was common practice, why would they even have to CALL,   
   let alone have different behaviors for when there's actual people there?   
      
   	If I don't ANSWER the phone, and I don't talk to anyone, I don't agree   
   to anything and haven't agreed, and I honestly can't even recall having   
   any such conflict. The only time anything related to that happened, it   
   was my wife agreeing to change our energy service based on a   
   fast-talking salesman, and I was able to force things to revert back the   
   next month. But that required that she actually talked with the people   
   involved and she had, in fact, agreed verbally to those services.   
      
      
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