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|    Nicky to J.Pascal    |
|    Re: Speaking of revision...    |
|    23 Aug 14 01:20:45    |
      From: nicky.matthews@btinternet.com              On Saturday, August 23, 2014 3:02:34 AM UTC+1, J.Pascal wrote:       > The revision... better? worse? pointless?       >        >        >        >        >        > The spell itself informed her. The magic wove through Eileen with tendrils       of dreamlike meaning. "You are summoned. We have summoned you. You are a       demon, bound to us and our cause."        >        I like tendrils of dreamlike meaning, but it is hard to understand - maybe       'tendrils of magic wove through Eileen' and separate out the bit about       meaning. How does she apprehend the meaning? Is this a dream or is she really       there?               > She expected to see pentagrams and candles when she opened her eyes if she       dreamed, or the ceiling of her darkened room if she woke. Instead, Eileen       opened her eyes and saw a bowl.              This clarifies the above to some extent and I think it works but the last bit       might suggest that she saw an ordinary bowl rather than that she was in one?        >        >        > She stood in the bottom of a perfect half sphere large enough and deep       enough that her head came only halfway to the lip. Voices and murmurings came       from above, proof that there were people just beyond her sight. She knew their       fear and could sense        their meaning, though she knew none of the words.              I think this works much better and places her securely in a situation.       >        >        > "Summoned. You must serve us."       >        >        >        > The bowl was made of fitted and polished white marble twined with threads of       moss green. Rivulets of crimson tricked down shallow gold-lined channels to       pool at her feet and between her toes. Eileen stood in a small but slowly       growing puddle of blood.       >        I don't know why you need 'fitted' and 'twined' suggests something external -       do you mean the marble was veined with green or that it is actual moss? It       might be clearer to mention the gold lined channels before the blood just       because it is more logical        to describe the channels in the marble along with the marble itself but it       works fine as it is and might be more dramatic that way.       >        > She screamed and scrambled away from the pool but the sides of the bowl were       smooth and her feet were slick with the blood. She fell. Screaming and sobbing       she tried again and again to escape the bowl. Again and again she slipped and       fell until she was        covered with the blood. Finally she stopped trying to climb and stood,       trembling, in the lowest spot.       >        This bit is really clear - maybe more detail about the first attempt so that       the generalisation follows a more complete experience otherwise it is a tiny       bit cursory and I'd like to see how hard she tried. Could she not pull herself       over the lip using        her arms - that seems as if it might be possible from the initial description.       The summary works of course if you want this section to be brief and dreamlike       : )       >        > The voices droned on. She pushed sopping hair from her face. One channel       remained dry above the blood she had splashed in her panic. Even as she       watched she saw the first red drop begin to flow.        >        I wondered why her hair was sopping - sweat, blood, rain? I'm not getting the       channel arrangement so it might have helped to know earlier how many bisected       the marble and how many were bloody.        >        > The spell informed her.        >        I kind of want the spell informed her understanding here for sense if not for       drama otherwise 'informed' is an oddly businesslike word .       >        > A mindless demon is of no use to anyone. The spell informed her and she knew       that the last sacrifice had been made and the spell complete.       >        I'm not sure why she would be mindless unless this is an implicit threat in       which case I'm a bit thick.       >        > Eileen stood still in hope that it would delay them if she did not stir the       blood. It didn't delay anything. As soon as the droplet of blood reached the       puddle where she stood a shaft of pain ripped a scream from her throat.        >        She obviously knows a lot more about summoning than we do. I think this bit       would be more effective if she has some awareness that the spell is incomplete       until all the channels are full of blood. Personally I'm not wild about pain       being ripped as if        pain is the active component. It's something I read all the time but it has       the effect of distancing the reader and the protagonist from the experience of       pain which seems counter to the intention of most authors. I like 'shaft'       'rip' as an image though.       >        > "We have summoned you. You must serve us."       >        >        >        > Eileen's body twisted and pulled. She writhed as she rose above the floor of       the bowl. Her screams became mere animal sounds as she expanded, as she grew       large and looming. Visions crawled through her mind of creatures, of people       with fox ears and cat        eyes, of individuals she never knew and would know forever, of armies without       names or faces and all of them dying by her hand.              'pulled' seems awkward here as 'twisted' describes an impact and 'pulled' an       action. If she is being lifted up from the bowl you could make more of this as       I imagine it would be disconcerting. The shift to her size etc loses her POV       and begins to        describe herself as she would be perceived. Again people do this all the time       but I'm not a fan. Also I don't know how visions 'crawl' but I'm not sure what       verb works there and the last part is really dramatic.              I think it is a def improvement on the previous and I think it works. Please       take all my comments with the usual provisos and handfuls of salt.       N              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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