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   Brian M. Scott to All   
   Re: What is in a name?   
   26 Sep 14 21:45:20   
   
   From: b.scott@csuohio.edu   
      
   On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 17:59:58 -0400, Michelle Bottorff   
    wrote in   
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   rec.arts.sf.composition:   
      
   > A. Tina Hall  wrote:   
      
   [...]   
      
   >> But this has me think of a possible term for you: der   
   >> Herr. (Means "the man", not "the lord" (so, no noble   
   >> title needed), unless the person is religious and   
   >> talking about their god - you won't find this use   
   >> outside that kind of subject.   
      
   >> And it's possible to us it directly addressing the guy,   
   >> and also do an extra snarky "der werte Herr" (werte is   
   >> short for verehrte, I think, honoured, revered). (The   
   >> snarky interpretation might be modern, though. Imagine a   
   >> mother asking her son "Wann wird denn der Herr sein   
   >> Zimmer aufraeumen?" - "Now, when will der Herr tidy his   
   >> room?")   
      
   > Cool!  Thank you!   
   > I have saved your message for later reference.   
      
   >> Plus, it's a bit old, though I don't know from when,   
   >> maybe Brian has better terminology and times for it.   
      
   > If he doesn't speak up, I'll assume it's okay.   
      
   I don’t know for sure, but I suspect that it’s old enough.   
   At about that time or a little later the nobility commonly   
   addressed servants in a really disparaging way: ‘Er wird das   
   Zimmer aufräumen’ (‘He will tidy the room’).  No ‘you’, no   
   name, just ‘he’ or ‘she’, as if the servant weren’t even   
   really there.   
      
   > I'm not planning being strictly period with the English   
   > anyway.   I just like to avoid things that scream   
   > "Modern!!!!!".  As a reader, I find them distracting.   
      
   Amen.  I just had that problem with an otherwise fairly   
   decent Sherlock Holmes story: the author was trying to use   
   the right sort of language, but there were a couple of   
   lapses that I found quite noticeable.   
      
   [...]   
      
   Brian   
   --   
   It was the neap tide, when the baga venture out of their   
   holes to root for sandtatties.  The waves whispered   
   rhythmically over the packed sand: haggisss, haggisss,   
   haggisss.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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