From: A_Tina_Hall@kruemel.org   
      
    wrote:   
   > Michelle Bottorff  wrote   
   >> A. Tina Hall  wrote:   
      
   > [...]   
      
   >>> But this has me think of a possible term for you: der   
   >>> Herr. (Means "the man", not "the lord" (so, no noble   
   >>> title needed), unless the person is religious and   
   >>> talking about their god - you won't find this use   
   >>> outside that kind of subject.   
      
   >>> And it's possible to us it directly addressing the guy,   
   >>> and also do an extra snarky "der werte Herr" (werte is   
   >>> short for verehrte, I think, honoured, revered). (The   
   >>> snarky interpretation might be modern, though. Imagine a   
   >>> mother asking her son "Wann wird denn der Herr sein   
   >>> Zimmer aufraeumen?" - "Now, when will der Herr tidy his   
   >>> room?")   
      
   >> Cool!  Thank you!   
   >> I have saved your message for later reference.   
      
   >>> Plus, it's a bit old, though I don't know from when,   
   >>> maybe Brian has better terminology and times for it.   
      
   >> If he doesn't speak up, I'll assume it's okay.   
      
   > I don?t know for sure, but I suspect that it?s old enough.   
   > At about that time or a little later the nobility commonly   
   > addressed servants in a really disparaging way: ?Er wird das   
   > Zimmer aufräumen? (?He will tidy the room?).  No ?you?, no   
   > name, just ?he? or ?she?, as if the servant weren?t even   
   > really there.   
      
   Isn't that somewhat different though? "Der Herr" is friendlier than just   
   "er".   
      
   ("It puts the lotion in the basket" NOOOO, I don't want that reference,   
   sigh.)   
      
   >> I'm not planning being strictly period with the English   
   >> anyway.   I just like to avoid things that scream   
   >> "Modern!!!!!".  As a reader, I find them distracting.   
      
   > Amen.  I just had that problem with an otherwise fairly   
   > decent Sherlock Holmes story: the author was trying to use   
   > the right sort of language, but there were a couple of   
   > lapses that I found quite noticeable.   
      
   Which were those?   
      
   Would be useful to have an example pointed out.   
      
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