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|    J.Pascal to William Vetter    |
|    Re: Tarzan and ERB.    |
|    14 Oct 14 14:53:42    |
      From: julie@pascal.org              On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 2:49:04 PM UTC-6, William Vetter wrote:       > On Monday, October 13, 2014 7:36:05 PM UTC-4, John W Kennedy wrote:       >        > > On 2014-10-13 22:40:46 +0000, William Vetter said:       >        > >        >        > >        >        > >        >        > > > I read Tarzan of the Apes last week for a reason involved with one of        >        > >        >        > > > my projects.       >        > >        >        > > >        >        > >        >        > > > One thing I noticed was that he never swung from a vine in this book.       >        > >        >        > > >        >        > >        >        > > > I think that he wrote about 20 Tarzan books, and I don't think I'm        >        > >        >        > > > going to read the rest.       >        > >        >        > > >        >        > >        >        > > > My question is whether he ever swings from a vine in any of the others,        >        > >        >        > > > or was that entirely an invention of movies.       >        > >        >        > >        >        > >        >        > > Judging from the books available in Gutenburg, when vines appear, they        >        > >        >        > > are generally barriers or decoration. Tarzan uses some vines to climb        >        > >        >        > > over a wall in one book, but that seems to be it.       >        > >        >        > What I see from the first volume:       >        >        >        > 1) "Me Tarzan; you Jane," is absent; that Tarzan initially could read       English at perhaps a seventh grade level, but knew how to speak none at all.       >        >        >        > 2) The signature yell from the movies is never described, except as "the       battle cry of the bull great ape."       >        >        >        > 3) Africa has a nearly complete canopy of foliage that Tarzan travels       through primarily by running along branches.       >        >        >        > 4) The coastline of Africa abounds in pirate coves; the coastline is       essentially the same as the setting in Treasure Island.       >        >        >        > 5) Tarzan has a pecking order relationship with Great Apes, has a       wait-and-see attitude toward White humans, and regards colored Africans as       inherently brutal savages.              I loved these books when I read them in high school. It is very very true,       however, that they were written at a time when Darwinism and evolution of       humans to higher forms and a new understanding of genetics and a fashion for       eugenics was the *       enlightened* and *scientific* view. Something that was apparent even to a 16       year old.              In the end I don't blame ERB for including monkeys, gorillas, apes and humans       of various races in a continuum of evolutionary progress. It's both appalling       and quaint and, mostly, important as a lesson on scientific hubris.              -Julie              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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