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   William Vetter to All   
   Re: To be interesting   
   07 Dec 14 18:38:25   
   
   From: mdhangton@gmail.com   
      
   Dorothy J Heydt laid this down on his screen :   
   > In article ,   
   > William Vetter   wrote:   
   >> Dorothy J Heydt was thinking very hard :   
   >>> In article ,   
   >>> William Vetter   wrote:   
   >>>> It happens that J.Pascal formulated :   
   >>>>> On Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:44:48 PM UTC-7, William Vetter wrote:   
   >>>>>> Some time ago, I read one of those books...this one was about openings.   
   >>>>>> It's thesis was the belief that it is possible to write an opening so   
   >>>>>> strong, that editors, literary agents, readers, publishing executives   
   >>>>>> are compelled to read on.  One of the examples mentioned the   
   >>>>>> assassination of JFK in the first sentence.  Author claimed that this   
   >>>>>> made it so interesting that people MUST read it.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> What I thought was that, "There are a lot of books about JFK.  Why   
   >>>>>> should I read this one?"   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Of course, we want to be interesting, the get the quality of being   
   >>>>>> interesting.  What do you think makes a fragment or piece of writing   
   >>>>>> interesting?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I think it's different for different people.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Your example is a good one.  Lots of people would think, Oh, JFK again?   
   >>>>> Yawn.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> "The first time I died I..."  might get an, Oh! More!, or else it might   
   >>>>> get,  Ew, gimmick much?  Or else, yawn, vampire, right?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I don't think that the question itself, of how to craft that one   
   >>>>> beginning  that is so strong that no one can put it down, is particularly   
   >>>>> valid.   Obviously the creature does not exist.  I think that it might be   
   >>>>> more  useful  to think in terms of who am I writing for and how do I get   
   >>>>> my  audience not to  set the book down.  If my audience begins and ends   
   >>>>> at  "agent, publisher's  slush reader and Editor" that's a particular   
   >>>>> challenge, and frankly the only  one that doesn't have cover art to help   
   >>>>> you out.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> Once I read a short story in one of the 4 magazines.  I only remember   
   >>>> the opening.  It was one of those flash forward openings.  A character   
   >>>> shot another character's Roman nose off with a pistol because the nose   
   >>>> annoyed him.  I remember it because it was obvious as a hook.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Was it interesting?  Maybe.  It was violent action.   
   >>>   
   >>> I think I would've closed the book, or paged through the   
   >>> magazine, at that point, and my reaction would've been not Yawn   
   >>> but Yucch.   
   >>   
   >> I don't remember what or who it was, but it was in F&SF around 1980.   
   >> What I was getting at is you can often see where somebody equates raw   
   >> violence or action or grisly crime scene descriptions with the concept   
   >> of hook.   
   >   
   > Lawrence Block, who back in the day wrote lots of whodunits and   
   > also wrote a monthly essay for one of the writers' magazines on   
   > how to write fiction (generally, everything else in the book was   
   > about how to write nonfiction and how to sell it to the editor   
   > before you had written it).  One of his essays was titled "Let's   
   > Hear It for Sex and Violence!"  He gave a couple of sample   
   > paragraphs full of sex and violence, and then said, "You'd go on   
   > reading, wouldn't you?"  No, I wouldn't.   
      
   A lot of detective novels open with some grisly crime scene.  They blur   
   together for me; the only one that stands out to me is one from a book   
   by Martin Cruz Smith, a sequel to _Gorky Park_, it might have been   
   _Havana Bay_.  It was a Russian burned up in his car.  The car was a   
   bank on wheels, the financial records being stored in a PC in the   
   victim's car.  The image I remember is all the diskettes being melted   
   into a lump, with the metal shutters sticking out of it.  What I mean   
   is that all the death-rictus corpses in all those novels were never   
   really memorable.   
      
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