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   J.Pascal to William Vetter   
   Re: To be interesting   
   28 Dec 14 18:54:44   
   
   From: julie@pascal.org   
      
   On Sunday, December 28, 2014 4:14:31 PM UTC-7, William Vetter wrote:   
   > J.Pascal laid this down on his screen :   
   (...)   
   > >   
   > > First sentences from some of my stories, no claim if they're good "hooks"   
   or    
   > > not.  (And I invite anyone to discuss them, if they "do the job" they're    
   > > supposed to do and why, and I've published nothing, so there you go.)   
   > >   
   > Who is to say what good the first sentence does without the first    
   > paragraph, and I don't know what you're trying to do with them, but I    
   > shall give my initial reactions below....   
   >    
   > They are not to say that they are bad first sentences, but to say what    
   > they apparently do.  Or maybe to suggest a way to do it more.   
      
   Since my thesis is that the perfect first sentence is a bug-a-boo designed to   
   block new writers, don't take my comments as argument with yours.  I do think   
   there is more in some of them, though.   
   >    
   > > 1) "I've had the most curious daydream," Kiralee said as Mark lowered   
   himself    
   > > onto the springy grass next to her.    
   > >   
   > This says what follows will be the description of a dream.  It doesn't    
   > do anything else.     
      
   The story is about Kiralee and Mark and things that are real and not-real.   
       
   > > 2) It was Tuesday and the cafeteria was serving fish balls and rice.     
   > >   
   > This suggests a routine, perhaps that the setting is Asian; and doesn't    
   > do much more.   
      
   It might be a small thing, but a setting where people eat in a cafeteria is   
   industrial or institutional... different than one where they make their own   
   food or grab a hotdog from a stand.  Of course the routine is about to be   
   disrupted.  I'm not sure if    
   that is implied or not.   
      
   >    
   > > 3) Iemar's room was a small one with a narrow bed and single window and    
   > > hardly room to walk between them.     
   > >   
   > This describes a blank setting.  Some people say that this is the    
   > author staring at a blank sheet of paper; whether or not this is so,    
   > you should consider the possibility that a slush reader would see it    
   > that way.   
      
   Poor. Underclass. No?  It's not a blank room, it's tiny and unadorned.  I   
   think that the next line is something about worn/frayed maps spilling from a   
   tiny table. The one after that is that she's sleeping in the daytime in her   
   steel toed work boots.  I'   
   ll admit that the action doesn't start until the fourth sentence though. ;)   
       
   > > 4) Sirs Tissleman and Jonchil sat carefully unmoving in their chairs.    
   > >   
   > With no previous info about the tableau, as a first line it only shows    
   > no activity.   
      
   No one likes this opening.  I do think that "carefully unmoving" is different   
   from no activity.  They are taking great care not to move.  It is a tableau   
   and meant to feel like one.  The only thing moving is blood on the floor.    
   But, as I said, no one    
   likes this opening.  It's stiff.  Complaining that it's supposed to be stiff   
   is what authors are NOT supposed to do.   
      
   >    
   > > 5)   Amongst the muttering in the air lock Dae'Neal thought he heard the    
   > > phrase "Captain's brat."   
   > >   
   > Maybe if _Captain's brat_ were replaced with catamite, it would suggest    
   > greater hostility toward the POV character.   
      
   And the 97% of readers who have not a clue what "catamite" means?  Except that   
   Dae'Neal is the Captain's son, so that would be super gross.   
       
   > > 6) The first breath of unfiltered planetary air reeks of green, of animal    
   > > shit, and of decay.   
   > >   
   > Ah, you know, if you stand beside a stable's manure pile after it    
   > rains, one smell will dominate.   
      
   If you stand beside a stable's manure pile often, it ceases to stink at all.    
      
   >    
   > Once upon a time, I saw somebody's manuscript.  The first sentence had    
   > three different metaphors about the colorful appearance of a sunset    
   > (one of them was a thrush's belly probably, but I can't remember).  It    
   > was very skillful, and that sort of thing is a talent I probably don't    
   > have.  I told the guy to pick one.   
   >    
   > > 7) The reason that wizard's towers are out in the middle of nowhere is to    
   > > protect normal people from the wizards.     
   > >   
   > First, the apostrophe should come at the end of _wizard's_.   
      
   Ack!   
       
   > _normal_ people suggests that wizards are abnormal.  If _normal_ were    
   > replaced with _sane_, then it would suggest that the POV character had    
   > stronger emotions toward wizards.   
      
   Normal is sort of soft, but it doesn't mean the same thing as sane.  And of   
   course wizards are abnormal... they can do magic.  I could say "mundane"   
   people, but I don't like that in this case.   
      
   Thanks for the feedback.  I do appreciate it.   
      
   -Julie   
      
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