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|    Will in New Haven to William Vetter    |
|    Re: trope/motif/cliche    |
|    02 Jul 15 09:46:17    |
      From: willreich_77@yahoo.com              On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 9:04:50 AM UTC-4, William Vetter wrote:       > Jim Hetley wrote:       > > On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 6:59:06 AM UTC-4, William Vetter wrote:       > >       > >> I was thinking the other day that Grendel breaks into the mead hall at       > >> night to slaughter thanes because he is a monster, and when we are       > >> confronted with a monster, the reader wants the brutal Viking Beowulf.       > >> That is what we call storytelling, and what we call writing is when we       > >> give Beowulf a crippled wife and a hound with three legs; and we give       > >> Grendel a backstory in which his mother the witch molested him and fed       > >> him spoiled weasel meat.       > >       > > "Grendel" is a lost humanoid in GHOST POINT, wounded and hungry, dying in a       > > Maine winter storm. Beowulf rescues her . . .       > >       > I read a book once, named _American Assassin_, because I wanted to see       > what a NYT Bestseller was. The title character was a       > swarthy-complexioned fellow who gads about Europe and systematically       > executes dodgy bankers who move money about for Islamic terrorists,       > with the idea of starving the terrorists of capital. The protagonist       > was essentially a monster-killer, pretty much like a Viking.       >       > Another such book I read was _Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter_, in       > which Lincoln doesn't give a crap about Abolitionism or Black people,       > he only wants to wipe out CSA vampires by the strategy of freeing the       > slaves through denying the enemy their cattle. Lincoln, about as       > complex a historical figure as one could want, is reduced to a Viking.              Neither of those characters sounds at all like a Viking.              --       Will in New Haven              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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