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   Will in New Haven to William Vetter   
   Re: trope/motif/cliche   
   02 Jul 15 09:46:17   
   
   From: willreich_77@yahoo.com   
      
   On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 9:04:50 AM UTC-4, William Vetter wrote:   
   > Jim Hetley wrote:   
   > > On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 6:59:06 AM UTC-4, William Vetter wrote:   
   > >   
   > >> I was thinking the other day that Grendel breaks into the mead hall at   
   > >> night to slaughter thanes because he is a monster, and when we are   
   > >> confronted with a monster, the reader wants the brutal Viking Beowulf.   
   > >> That is what we call storytelling, and what we call writing is when we   
   > >> give Beowulf a crippled wife and a hound with three legs; and we give   
   > >> Grendel a backstory in which his mother the witch molested him and fed   
   > >> him spoiled weasel meat.   
   > >   
   > > "Grendel" is a lost humanoid in GHOST POINT, wounded and hungry, dying in a   
   > > Maine winter storm.  Beowulf rescues her . . .   
   > >   
   > I read a book once, named _American Assassin_, because I wanted to see   
   > what a NYT Bestseller was.  The title character was a   
   > swarthy-complexioned fellow who gads about Europe and systematically   
   > executes dodgy bankers who move money about for Islamic terrorists,   
   > with the idea of starving the terrorists of capital.  The protagonist   
   > was essentially a monster-killer, pretty much like a Viking.   
   >   
   > Another such book I read was _Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter_, in   
   > which Lincoln doesn't give a crap about Abolitionism or Black people,   
   > he only wants to wipe out CSA vampires by the strategy of freeing the   
   > slaves through denying the enemy their cattle.  Lincoln, about as   
   > complex a historical figure as one could want, is reduced to a Viking.   
      
   Neither of those characters sounds at all like a Viking.   
      
   --   
   Will in New Haven   
      
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