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   Brian M. Scott to All   
   Re: Linguistic voice woes   
   10 Jul 15 17:10:54   
   
   From: b.scott@csuohio.edu   
      
   On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 16:46:14 -0400, Michelle Bottorff   
    wrote   
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   rec.arts.sf.composition:   
      
   > Brian M. Scott  wrote:   
      
   >>> I understand SOV.  V2 is unfamiliar to me.   
      
   >> Basically it means that the finite verb in a declarative   
   >> main clause is the second constituent.  The first   
   >> constituent may be a subject, an object, an adverbial   
   >> phrase, etc.   
      
   > So "He hit her", is correct,   
   > and "Her hit he" is also correct,   
   > vut "Her he hit" is wrong,   
   > and so is "He her hit"?   
      
   That’s correct.  In German:   
      
       Er schlug sie.   
       Sie schlug er.   
     *Sie er schlug.   
     *Er sie schlug.   
      
   (The asterisk is a standard indication of an ungrammatical   
   utterance.)  The second would be a bit unusual, but it’s   
   grammatical.  (Indeed, I recently ran across  'Him kissed she'.)  The last, which is ungrammatical,   
   would be the default if the language were SOV.   
      
   You can also have, for example:   
      
      Gestern schlug er sie.   
      Yesterday hit he her.   
      
   Brian   
   --   
   It was called ‘Birdsong at Eventide’, and it went, ‘Ting   
   _pling_ ting pling _ting_, ting tong, ting tong, ting   
   tonggg clonk, bother!’  At least, that is how it went   
   when Myrtle played it. -- _Larklight_, by Philip Reeve   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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