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   Dorothy J Heydt to Leszek Karlik   
   Re: Linguistic voice woes   
   11 Jul 15 14:54:26   
   
   From: djheydt@kithrup.com   
      
   In article ,   
   Leszek Karlik  wrote:   
   >On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 20:11:17 +0200, Dorothy J Heydt    
   >wrote:   
   >   
   >   
   >[...]   
   >> Hmmm, word order.  Master Yoda's utterances have elicited a lot   
   >> of humorous comments, but he's just basically using Russian word   
   >> order, verb-final.   
   >   
   >Actually, German would be a better example, it's a strict SOV language   
   >(subject-order-verb), ....   
      
   No, German is SOV in an independent clause, SOV in a dependent   
   clause, and, as Mark Twain famously observed,   
      
   "Whenever the literary German dives into a sentence, that is the   
   last you are going to see of him until he emerges on the other side   
   of his Atlantic with his verb in his mouth.   
      
   Because when they say verb-final, they mean verb-FINAL, with   
   every possible noun, adjective, and adverb shoved in before the   
   verb.   
      
   Mind you, you could get away with that kind of syntax for your   
   characters, but it would drive English-speaking readers nuts.   
      
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   Dorothy J. Heydt   
   Vallejo, California   
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