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   Daniel S. Goodman to Dorothy J Heydt   
   Re: Hearing languages   
   23 Jul 15 11:59:27   
   
   From: dsgood@gmail.com   
      
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   On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 3:15:02 PM UTC-5, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:   
   > In article ,   
   > Brenda   wrote:   
   > >On 7/11/2015 8:15 PM, Michelle Bottorff wrote:   
   > >> Daniel S. Goodman  wrote:   
   > >>   
   > >>>   
   > >>> My amendment to your advice:  If possible, have someone who speaks that   
   > >>> particular version of a language look over your dialog.   
   > >>   
   > >> Nice trick when my book is set in a secondary world.   
   > >>   
   > >> Nobody speaks this language except for the characters in question.   
   > >> Not even me, and I invented it.  :)   
   > >>   
   > >>   
   > >> But maybe I can do this when I'm working in my alternate history world.   
   > >>   
   > >> Although my husband seems to be voting for the story set in Ohio, where   
   > >> people will mostly be speaking English (how boring!), to be next one I   
   > >> write in that world,  rather than the one set in Germany or the one set   
   > >> in Czechoslovakia.   
   > >>   
   > >> ...Or even, for that matter, the one set in England.  (Which I want to   
   > >> be a graphic novel, and for which I already have a rough draft of the   
   > >> script. I tried to convince him we could try kickstarter the cost of an   
   > >> artist for it, but he seemed unconvinced.)   
   > >>   
   > >>   
   > >   
   > >   
   > >My thesis is that you never need resort to distortions of grammar or   
   > >spelling. You can indicate class, foreign-ness, educational level,   
   > >profession, gender orientation even -- all with cadence, word choice,   
   > >and voice. Mark Twain said that in HUCKLEBERRY FINN he had four separate   
   > >dialects of American Southern, each delineated by spelling. I can't do   
   > >that. And it is difficult to read -- if you read it aloud you can hear   
   > >it, however.   
   >   
   > And, of course, Twain had lived in the region and was familiar   
   > with those dialects.  He didn't have to invent them.   
   >   
   > Nobody is asking you to be Tolkien; but (as in all SF/F) it is a   
   > plus if you can be consistent.   
   >   
   > --   
   > Dorothy J. Heydt   
   > Vallejo, California   
   > djheydt at gmail dot com   
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