From: mdhangton@gmail.com
Brian M. Scott wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 09:22:34 -0400, William Vetter
> wrote
> in in
> rec.arts.sf.composition:
>
>> Would you use "stoup" in a manuscript?
>
>> It is supposed to be a Scottish word that would mean
>> patron or perhaps subsidizer.
>
> The Dictionary of the Scots Language isn’t aware of such a
> word. From the Dictionary of the Older Scottish Tongue (up
> to 1700) it has:
>
> 'a vessel for holding, chiefly, liquids; a cask,
> bucket, pitcher or the like; a vessel containing liquid
> for drinking; a drinking vessel; a tankard, cup,
> flagon', the latter meaning being the one with which
> I’m familiar; and
>
> 'a post or pillar, usu. of wood, chiefly used
> to support something, also as a barrier, etc.' (and some
> related senses).
>
> From the Scottish National Dictionary (1700-) it has:
>
> , 'a wooden post, pillar or prop,
> e.g. a chair or table leg, a bed- or gate-post, etc.; a
> pillar of coal left in mining to support the roof of
> the working' (and some related senses); and
>
> , 'a wooden pail or bucket, gen.
> used for carrying water from a well, and usu. narrower
> at the mouth than at the bottom to prevent spilling;
> 'a smaller-sized vessel for holding liquor, sometimes
> also used as a drinking-vessel, acc. to its size, which
> varied considerably, a mug, flagon, tankard, decanter'.
>
> [...]
>
> Brian
I found it in Chambers Dictionary and Chambers Thesaurus, and also
mentioned once in OED, 2nd Ed. I asked because it was a short word,
but seemed archaic & obscure. Jim Theis would have no problem using
stoup in a ms. I paste what I found below.
Chambers Dictionary:
stoop4 or stoup /stoop/
noun
1. A post (dialect)
2. A prop, supporter, patron (Scot)
3. A massive supporting pillar of coal in a mine (dialect)
ORIGIN: ON stolpi post
stoop and roop or stoup and roup (Scot)
Stump and rump, completely
Oxford English Dictionary:
stoop, n.1 Now only dial.
(stuːp)
Forms: α. 5 stolpe, 5–9 stulp(e, 6 stoulpe. β. 5–7 stowpe, 6 stuipe,
stouppe, stowppe, 6–8 stoope, 6–9 stoup(e, 7–9 stope, stowp, (7
stoppe), 7– stoop.
[Late ME. stulpe, stolpe, a. ON. stolpe (Icel. stólpi, Sw., Da.
stolpe); prob. cogn. w. Russian stolb post, pillar.
It is doubtful whether the word has any connexion with MLG. and
early mod.Du. stolpe, stulpe lid (according to Kilian also beam,
rafter), mod.Du. stolp, stulp, mod.G. stulpe (from LG.).
The β forms may possibly partly represent a distinct but synonymous
word, a. or cogn. w. OFris. stûpa, MLG., MDu. stûpe whipping-post,
stake, punishment of flogging, MHG. stûpe (from MLG.; mod.G. staupe)
flogging.]
2.2 fig. A person or thing that supports or sustains; a ‘prop’,
‘pillar’. Sc.
a 1572 Knox Hist. Ref. iv. Wks. 1848 II. 411 Ledingtoune and the
Maister of Maxwell were that nycht the two stoupeis of hir chair.
1640 R. Baillie Lett. & Jrnls. (Bannatyne Club) I. 282 Since he
heard of Ratcliffe prisoned, and Wentford's death, his two stoups, his
heart is a little fallen. 1721 Ramsay To Earl Dalhousie 2 Dalhousie
of an auld descent, My chief, my stoup, and ornament. 1821 Galt Ann.
Parish xxvi. (1895) 167 All [invited] in addition to our old stoops
from the neighbouring parishes. 1863 R. Paul in B. Bell Mem. (1872)
266 He‥is‥a great stoop to the Free Church. 1896 Barrie Marg. Ogilvy
ii, He was a great ‘stoup’ of the Auld Licht kirk.
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