From: willreich_77@yahoo.com   
      
   On Friday, October 16, 2015 at 9:30:02 AM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:   
   > In article ,   
   > Will in New Haven   wrote:   
   > >On Thursday, October 15, 2015 at 1:49:13 PM UTC-4, John W Kennedy wrote:   
   > >> On 2015-10-15 04:59:35 +0000, daveorchanian@gmail.com said:   
   > >>    
   > >> > On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 11:15:03 AM UTC-7, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:   
   > >> >    
   > >> >> Hmmm, word order.  Master Yoda's utterances have elicited a lot   
   > >> >> of humorous comments, but he's just basically using Russian word   
   > >> >> order, verb-final.  (You can observe this by watching _Alekxandr   
   > >> >> Nevsky_ with the English subtitles that were obviously written by   
   > >> >> a native speaker of Russian who didn't know English *quite* as   
   > >> >> well as he thought he did.)   
   > >> >    
   > >> > If you want to look at OSV order, look at such Brazilian languages as    
   > >> > Xavante. Or at the Romance language Sardinian . . .   
   > >>    
   > >> All six possible word orders are found in natural languages, but OSV    
   > >> and OVS are less common.   
   > >>    
   > >   
   > >In my fictional languages, Chop is a Pidgin with SVO word order but it   
   > >is descended mostly from Shai, in which the form of the noun or pronoun   
   > >tells you its function in the sentence and the word order is simply   
   > >choice. Chop got its word order and some of its vocabulary from Mothi.    
   >    
   > Well. you'll recall that Tolkien invented Quenya with the   
   > phonology of Finnish, because he tought it was beautiful, and   
   > Sincarin with the phonology of Welsh, because he thought that was   
   > beautiful, and then had the fun of figuring out how over   
   > millennia Sindarin developed from Quenya -- which took some   
   > doing, because their real-world analogs aren't related at all.   
   > And he gave Sindarin umlaut plurals, e.g. the word for "man":   
   > Quenya _atan_, pl. _atani_  Sindarin _adan_, pl. _edain_.   
      
   You are correct, I _do_ recall most of that. In my unpublished fiction and my   
   roleplaying setting the languages are important in that you could find   
   yourself in a fight if you ordered a drink in the wrong language in a bar in   
   the right part of Flower    
   City or Old Meos. At my age, though, I stay out of bars.   
      
   --    
   Will in New Haven   
   "Sir, you have the advantage of me."   
   "That's the way I like it."   
   I read this exchange _somewhere_ and I would like to credit it.   
      
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