From: A_Tina_Hall@kruemel.org
On 14.12.18, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
wrote:
> On 12/12/18 5:38 PM, bobthrollop@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 10:50:41 PM UTC-7, Johnny Tindalos
>> wrote:
>>> Hullo rasfc'ers, where did everyone go? Have we changed venue?
I've been wondering that, too.
Maybe I should un-ignore some folks, if I can find them in the list, to
repopulate my view of rasfc with the few that do turn up.
.. Seems Johnny's message just got lost because I forgot to get new
ones when he posted it.
I'm hanging out on Steam, playing games, missing the ability to ramble
on about my stories. It really helps with solving problems, even if none
of the suggestions are applicable, just the rambling gets my mind back
on the right track. (I distinctly remember how I finally found a way to
get rid of my defined-as-irremovable top two evil overlords, for
example.)
The third book of the S&E still needs more text. Some rambling in a
group on Steam helped with a bit, but that was only a short thread.
So, anyone here up to bearing me think out loud, offering the odd
comment? (Please no arguing, I grew allergic to that here and in rasfw
all those years ago. Of course, some statements of "this HAS to be THAT
way" inspired me to do it NOT THAT way. :)) )
>> The problem is that everything I write is from exactly the same
>> point of view and when the story requires a change, I can't do it.
>> I've been looking over whatever fiction books happened to be sitting
>> around and studying, much more carefully than ever before, how
>> different point of view effects are achieved.
I have every point of view be their own "scene", even if it's connecting
right to a previous bit of text, I separate it and then write from the
new (third person) point of view.
Might not work if you're switching back and forth a lot within even the
same conversation.
I vaguely remember a viewpoint shift in some Dune book, which I always
thought had multiple third person in separate scenes too. (I forgot
whether I just came across it or someone pointed it out here or in
rasfw.) If you have that lying around you could have a look. The scene I
remember was in a greenhouse, or similar, between Paul and Jessica, I
think. (The guy might have been someone else, my memory is vague.)
> Whether that's a PROBLEM depends on what that point of view is, I
> guess. I mean, the entirety of any first-person novel, of which there
> are many, is told from that one character's point of view. There's
> never a change of point of view, because that's the POINT of the
> first-person novel; you see things as they are seen from the one main
> character's (or sometimes a sidekick of the main character) point of
> view.
I wouldn't know, and wouldn't want to know, how to even do that. :)
Writing as 'I' would just feel wrong.
I distinctly remember that in my memory your Digital Knight had been
converted to third person, too, and I think you pointed out that that
was wrong.
> I always think of "Point of View" as "where is the camera and
> microphone located?". In First Person, it's located right on the head
> of the main character. You can see only what they see, know only what
> they know, etc. In Third Person, the camera is focused on the current
> PoV character, but from a remove.
I'm in pretty close with my third person. It's he, and she, and it,
right inside their head, what they think, feel, see, do. It's just not
'I', because, well, it's not me, after all, it's them.
Glad to see some life here. Would be cool if we could keep that up. :)
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"Damn. Isn't there anyone else to blame?"
"Oh, I think I could come up with a very short list, and blame everything
else on the same name as well." -- Magic Earth I: Getting Caught
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