From: bobthrollop@gmail.com   
      
   On Friday, December 14, 2018 at 3:58:39 AM UTC-8, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)   
   wrote:   
   > On 12/12/18 5:38 PM, bobthrollop@gmail.com wrote:   
   > > On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 10:50:41 PM UTC-7, Johnny Tindalos wrote:   
   > >> Hullo rasfc'ers, where did everyone go? Have we changed venue?   
   > >   
   > > I'm dropping back in after a hiatus of nearly ten years...I stopped   
   posting because I'd just run out of things to say.  I never did learn how to   
   write, either.   
   > >   
   > > I took up one of my old story beginnings last week and started working on   
   it again, and I got bogged down about two pages in.  This time, I identified a   
   problem in my style that I never noticed before...   
      
   Thanks for the suggestions so far, although I'm not really asking for   
   advice here.  Once one gets the notion of points of view--and we've   
   certainly discussed it to death here--I think the rest is something   
   one really has to work out for oneself. So, if I don't want to discuss   
   my story, why bring it up in a discussion group?  Well, I'm glad to   
   discuss it, but I don't necessarily want advice.   
      
   My motivation is that I'm trying to make myself look at the work in   
   progress through other eyes.  The scene I'm lately having difficulty   
   with--why is it in the story, and what needs to happen to E. in the   
   scene?   
      
   I'm struggling to describe just what needs to happen for story   
   purposes; how it will play out; and consequently, how it will be   
   described.  And make all that consistent with the evolving character   
   arcs.   
      
   I decided that my heroine needs a reason to get involved in the   
   struggles that follow.  This is about the third chapter, and the   
   second plot twist.  She was introduced to a foreign world in the first,   
   and in the second she grew dissatisfied with her mundane life.  Now,   
   she gets a chance to go back to that world and a cause to fight for.   
      
      
   So...what does that look like?  I just made up a new location for her   
   to visit.  She'll meet some good friends there.  The Chapter 3 scene   
   is not the same place as Chapter 1.  But  I just made the new place up   
   and I'm having trouble conceptualizing what it's even like.  But what   
   really set me off is that when I started to write the description, it   
   occurred to me that I always use the same point-of-view and voice to   
   write things like this and it really doesn't work.   
      
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