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   A. Tina Hall to NoReplies@jymes.com   
   Re: [Crit] Opening -- 300 words   
   22 Jan 19 07:49:00   
   
   From: A_Tina_Hall@kruemel.org   
      
   On 22.01.19, Capuchin   wrote:   
   > On 21 Jan 2019 "A. Tina Hall"  wrote:   
      
   >> Right now I'm reading through the books again and hope I'll get and   
   >> keep some momentum to pour some text into the third one. :)   
      
   > A while ago, I stopped submitting a ms. to agents and decided to   
   > change the couple of things people said might be putting agents off   
   > -- too long (120K words), and two of the main characters are demons.   
      
   What people?   
      
   Mind, I've given up on published books being what I want to read, so I'm   
   not exactly reflecting potential customers, but for me, longer = better,   
   and without further info, demons as main characters makes it more   
   interesting.   
      
   > Since they're very non-typical demons, I can change them to trolls,   
   > and I'm sure losing a few scenes wouldn't destroy the story.   
      
   For me, trolls aren't really interesting at all. :)   
      
   Been playing Shadowrun computer RPG game a while ago, and there I ran   
   into the first troll I actually like (and female at that, though the   
   story had her chafe at my character for quite some time, I actively   
   tried to improve on that).   
      
   In another of those games (there are three of them), I ran into a really   
   cool orc, too. (And orcs are about as high on my list of interesting   
   characters as trolls.)   
      
   No dwarf that changed my opinion on them, though.   
      
   > A quick check shows I haven't touched it since 12/15.   
      
   > A novel which I am/was writing only because it's the type of thing I   
   > really want to read stalled out on one scene and hasn't seen progress   
   > of any kind since 02/16.   
      
   > The story discussed here was started wish some seriousness in approx.   
   > 7/16 and now sits at the 'maybe two acceptable chapters' stage.   
      
   What manuscripts did you submit, it must have been something finished,   
   no?   
      
   > What is this "momentum" of which you speak?   
      
   Oh, if we're listing stories that only got started, I can offer 15 or   
   more. :)   
      
   Initially I wrote the first two books (and a bit of the third) of the   
   Seasons & Elements trilogy in relatively short time, pretty much in one   
   go.   
      
   Then 6 books of the Magic Earth series (around 130k words on average per   
   book, though it varies a bit) also in one go, right to the point where I   
   knew that's the end of the story!   
      
   Added more text over the years, now there's a 7th, and a Steam friend   
   that read them says it should be part of the series (it does tie up some   
   loose ends, like getting rid of the evil overlords - which the initial   
   story wasn't about).   
      
   They got rolling, got momentum. :)   
      
   Among the others, I have 6 attempts at Fantasy With Gods (I'm not good   
   on doing the gods' motivations, though, or be satisfied with the way   
   they are, or they're too good and there's nothing to tell,...), one   
   Space adventure, one near future Earth has been invaded by no one really   
   knows what they are, or what they want, but they took over without   
   problems...   
      
   Oh, there's also a fantasy on our world about some special (invented)   
   people. One where humans invaded some nice alien place. Some alien place   
   that's changing, with humans turning up (I finally figured out how they   
   came to be there, but haven't touched the story in years).   
      
   I got the feeling that all ideas I had went into the two big stories   
   that got rolling though, and I can at best do a repeat.   
      
   More recently I started a kind of inversion of the Magic Earth series,   
   with benign overlords, but didn't get rolling there either. (Even the   
   title would fit; Earth Magic.) But I could insert the one thought I   
   haven't found a place to put it yet.   
      
   Oh, and let's not forget my poor vampire story, that was killed by   
   statements about what had to be put into a story.   
      
   Hm, checking my list, there's still more that I didn't even mention. All   
   fantasy, on other worlds. Oh, one more Fantasy With Gods that isn't part   
   of the initial 6, too.   
      
   I occasionally think of one or the other, but tend to only reread the   
   two bigger stories, and want to finish the S&E.   
      
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   [Flying]   
   "Why can't the wizards do this?" Thay asked.   
   "Because you can't lift yourself, of course." Viroces returned.   
   He laughed. "Makes sense."            -- Seasons & Elements 3/3   
      
      
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