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   Dorothy J Heydt to Capuchin@jymes.com   
   Re: [Crit] and discussion -- My Other   
   14 Dec 21 16:51:45   
   
   From: djheydt@kithrup.com   
      
   In article ,   
   Capuchin   wrote:   
   >On Tue, 14 Dec 2021 14:38:58 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J   
   >Heydt) wrote:   
   >   
   >>In article <8a1grg1jfad685lmlmaatv1mumofegsvbq@4ax.com>,   
   >>Capuchin   wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>The blackjack dealer slid a card from the shoe to the square in front   
   >>>of me and then took one for herself. My other knew I had a queen and   
   >>>she a six, but to maintain my disguise as a normal person, I lifted   
   >>>the corner of mine for a quick peek. The next cards, dealt face up,   
   >>>were an eight for me and a jack for her.   
   >>> [Snip]   
   >>>   
   >>>What would you do different?   
   >>>   
   >>Well: is this the opening of the story, or an extract from later?   
   >>If it's an extract, perhaps you'd want to introduce "my other" in   
   >>some not-too-explain-y way.  Appparent they can sense predetermined   
   >>order, which exists in the present, but can't predict random   
   >>actions that will happen in the future?  (This almost makes   
   >>sense.)   
   >>   
   >>I am handicapped in this discussion by knowing damn-all about   
   >>blackjack--it is blackjack, isn't it?   
   >>   
   >>Possibly an opening paragraph might help, on the order of   
   >>   
   >>"We walked into the casino, my other and I.  I heard the rattle   
   >>of dice, the nervous chatter of voices, smelled high-quality   
   >>booze and cheap perfume.  But my other fed me the order of cards   
   >>in the deck, one deck becoming clear as it finished its last   
   >>shuffle, and [whatever else the other can see because it exists   
   >>in the present.]"   
   >>   
   >>But it's an interesting concept.  Go with it.   
   >   
   >This is the opening.Yes, it's blackjack. You draw cards until you're   
   >as high as possible without going over 21, and then whoever has the   
   >highest hand wins. In casinos, the dealer has to stand on 17 and above   
   >and draw on 16 or less.   
   >   
   >One problem I've had is making sure there's no hint of another   
   >person/body involved, as in "significant other." I've learned that if   
   >a reader gets an idea there are two people, nothing will shake it   
   >loose. Even when told, by other characters' statements/actions they   
   >see only one person, the reader will still think there are two, but   
   >maybe one is a ghost, or invisible, or . . .   
   >   
   >I considered: ". . .  My other way of seeing showed I had a queen . .   
   >.," . . . "My unseen other eyeball looked through the cards . . .,"   
   >and . . . "My magic-induced other sight showed . . .," but nothing   
   >along these lines feels right.   
   >   
   >That he only sees things that are fixed adds, I think, on two   
   >different levels. It prevents him from being omniscient (and leading a   
   >perfect life), and it makes him wonder if there are people whose   
   >others can see the future (he doesn't know the source of his 'gift').   
   >   
   >There might be a later scene with him in a non-casino card game. He   
   >knows the next card will give him a full house, but what he's dealt is   
   >different. He instantly knows his opponent is dealing seconds, but he   
   >can't call him out on it ("I psychically knew what my next card would   
   >be" won't win you any friends at the poker table) .   
   >   
   No, I don't think so.  I think your phrase "my other" works in   
   part *because* your viewpoint character doesn't specify what   
   their other is; we only see it doing its thing.   
      
   I still think a very short introduction showing the other doing   
   their thing, observing the present of one or more card decks   
   before the protagonist is in the throes of the game, might make a   
   smoother entrance into the story.   
      
   Or maybe not.  There have been stories before about people with a   
   personal other, but this is a whole 'nother take.  You do you.   
      
   I'd like to see other people's take on your opening, but rasf-c   
   has been moribund for a long time.   
      
   (Maybe I'll post a note on rasf-w, suggesting that others take a   
   look here.   
      
      
   --   
   Dorothy J. Heydt   
   Vallejo, California   
   djheydt at gmail dot com   
   Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/   
      
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