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   The Doctor to Dorothy J Heydt   
   Re: Doctor Who's Davros reinvention is c   
   02 Dec 23 23:10:37   
   
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   From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca   
      
   In article ,   
   Dorothy J Heydt  wrote:   
   >In article ,   
   >Daniel65   wrote:   
   >>The Last Doctor wrote on 28/11/23 8:49 pm:   
   >>> Daniel65  wrote:   
   >>>> Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 28/11/23 4:21 am:   
   >>>>> In article , The True Doctor   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 23/11/2023 18:26, Tim Merrigan wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 21:46:36 +0000, The True Doctor   
   >>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 22/11/2023 20:12, Tim Merrigan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:12:28 +0000, The True Doctor   
   >>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Retarded thinking by degenerate patronizing woke   
   >>>>>>>>>> hypocrites and bigots who no body asked for them to be   
   >>>>>>>>>> represented by.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Make up your mind, is it "woke" or bigoted?  (What   
   >>>>>>>>> people appear to object to most about "woke" is that it's   
   >>>>>>>>> not bigoted.)   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> It's both woke and bigoted. That's how the conjunction   
   >>>>>>>> 'and' works. If I'd wanted to make it optional I would have   
   >>>>>>>> said 'or'.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> five specials and an 8 episode season in the can   
   >>>>>>>>>>> already and production is underway on the 2025   
   >>>>>>>>>>> season), so we can either learn to live with it and   
   >>>>>>>>>>> accept the show for what it now is, or move on.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Doctor Who ended in 2017. Other people will continue   
   >>>>>>>>>> it from where it ended. RTD isn't making anything for   
   >>>>>>>>>> the viewers, and neither was Chibnall. They're only   
   >>>>>>>>>> making stuff for their own woke degenerate egos.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Thus speaketh the fanatic who thinks canon should follow   
   >>>>>>>>> his fanfics.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> My fan fic. was better written than both Chibnall's and   
   >>>>>>>> Davies's, based on real canon, and had an able bodied   
   >>>>>>>> Davros creating the Dalek travel machines so shouldn't you   
   >>>>>>>> be prizing it?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Jodie Whittaker's Doctor IS real canon at this point.  It's   
   >>>>>>> not up to you, or anyone outside the production and publicity   
   >>>>>>> staff at BBC, to decide otherwise.  What you're talking about   
   >>>>>>> is fanfic.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Whittaker is not canon and neither is anything derived from   
   >>>>>> the Timeless Child monster era. Doctor Who therefore ended in   
   >>>>>> 2017 and is irrevivable unless the Timeless Child monster is   
   >>>>>> erased.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> [Hal Heydt] Who died and made you the arbiter of canon?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> We've been waiting quite some time to get the answer to that   
   >>>> question, Dorothy.   
   >>>   
   >>> That’s Dorothy’s husband Hal engaging, Daniel (hence the tag). At   
   >>> least until Aggie’s absurdities exhaust his patience. Dorothy passed   
   >>> last year.   
   >>>   
   >>Ah!! Sorry! With the surname 'Heydt' I guessed a non-English speaking   
   >>poster, so thought the 'Hal' might have been from that other language.   
   >>   
   >>Sorry, Hal. Sorry for not realising you weren't Dorothy .... and sorry   
   >>for her passing (even though I didn't know her) .... but I guess that'll   
   >>come to us all, sooner or later!   
   >   
   >[Hal Heydt]   
   >I'm not upset about the mistake.   
   >   
   >A couple of bits of history...  The eponymous Heydt was Karl Otto   
   >Heydt who came to the US from Prussia to avoid being drafted to   
   >fight in the Franco-Prussian War of 1870.   
   >   
   >When we were married, Dorothy cheerfully change her surname from   
   >Jones to Heydt because she had found over the years that a   
   >surprising number of people could neither spell nor pronounce   
   >Jones.  (Go figure.)  Likewise, because of the same issue with   
   >Heydt, when our daughter was married, she changed her surname to   
   >that of her husband, Creelman.  She has since found...the same   
   >issue.   
      
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