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   In article ,   
   Dorothy J Heydt wrote:   
   >In article ,   
   >The Doctor wrote:   
   >>In article ,   
   >>Dorothy J Heydt wrote:   
   >>>In article ,   
   >>>The Doctor wrote:   
   >>>>In article ,   
   >>>>Dorothy J Heydt wrote:   
   >>>>>In article ,   
   >>>>>Daniel65 wrote:   
   >>>>>>The Last Doctor wrote on 28/11/23 8:49 pm:   
   >>>>>>> Daniel65 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 28/11/23 4:21 am:   
   >>>>>>>>> In article , The True Doctor   
   >>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 23/11/2023 18:26, Tim Merrigan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 21:46:36 +0000, The True Doctor   
   >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/11/2023 20:12, Tim Merrigan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:12:28 +0000, The True Doctor   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Retarded thinking by degenerate patronizing woke   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hypocrites and bigots who no body asked for them to be   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> represented by.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Make up your mind, is it "woke" or bigoted? (What   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> people appear to object to most about "woke" is that it's   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> not bigoted.)   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> It's both woke and bigoted. That's how the conjunction   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> 'and' works. If I'd wanted to make it optional I would have   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> said 'or'.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> five specials and an 8 episode season in the can   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already and production is underway on the 2025   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> season), so we can either learn to live with it and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accept the show for what it now is, or move on.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doctor Who ended in 2017. Other people will continue   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it from where it ended. RTD isn't making anything for   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the viewers, and neither was Chibnall. They're only   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> making stuff for their own woke degenerate egos.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thus speaketh the fanatic who thinks canon should follow   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> his fanfics.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> My fan fic. was better written than both Chibnall's and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Davies's, based on real canon, and had an able bodied   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Davros creating the Dalek travel machines so shouldn't you   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> be prizing it?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Jodie Whittaker's Doctor IS real canon at this point. It's   
   >>>>>>>>>>> not up to you, or anyone outside the production and publicity   
   >>>>>>>>>>> staff at BBC, to decide otherwise. What you're talking about   
   >>>>>>>>>>> is fanfic.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Whittaker is not canon and neither is anything derived from   
   >>>>>>>>>> the Timeless Child monster era. Doctor Who therefore ended in   
   >>>>>>>>>> 2017 and is irrevivable unless the Timeless Child monster is   
   >>>>>>>>>> erased.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> [Hal Heydt] Who died and made you the arbiter of canon?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> We've been waiting quite some time to get the answer to that   
   >>>>>>>> question, Dorothy.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> That’s Dorothy’s husband Hal engaging, Daniel (hence the tag). At   
   >>>>>>> least until Aggie’s absurdities exhaust his patience. Dorothy passed   
   >>>>>>> last year.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>Ah!! Sorry! With the surname 'Heydt' I guessed a non-English speaking   
   >>>>>>poster, so thought the 'Hal' might have been from that other language.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>Sorry, Hal. Sorry for not realising you weren't Dorothy .... and sorry   
   >>>>>>for her passing (even though I didn't know her) .... but I guess that'll   
   >>>>>>come to us all, sooner or later!   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>[Hal Heydt]   
   >>>>>I'm not upset about the mistake.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>A couple of bits of history... The eponymous Heydt was Karl Otto   
   >>>>>Heydt who came to the US from Prussia to avoid being drafted to   
   >>>>>fight in the Franco-Prussian War of 1870.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>When we were married, Dorothy cheerfully change her surname from   
   >>>>>Jones to Heydt because she had found over the years that a   
   >>>>>surprising number of people could neither spell nor pronounce   
   >>>>>Jones. (Go figure.) Likewise, because of the same issue with   
   >>>>>Heydt, when our daughter was married, she changed her surname to   
   >>>>>that of her husband, Creelman. She has since found...the same   
   >>>>>issue.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Languages and cultures come to mind.   
   >>>   
   >>>[Hal Heydt]   
   >>>More about languages than you might suppose. Dorothy had a   
   >>>degree in Linguistics. Me...the only languages (other than   
   >>>English) that I can deal with are for programming computers.   
   >>   
   >>As in C, COBOL, Fortran, Pascal, BASIC ...   
   >   
   >[Hal Heydt]   
   >I *can* write in C, though not well. I spent a lot of years   
   >writing in COBOL, and I can make it do things that aren't always   
   >meant to be possible. FORTRAN is kind of rusty. I started with   
   >FORTAN II and later got FORTRAN IV (pretty easy transition).   
   >Never learned Pascal. BASIC I get by in because I knew FORTRAN.   
   >Also learned and/or used a number of assembly languages... SPS   
   >IID, Autocoder, ALC (aka BAL), COMPASS. (Points to those that   
   >can identify the machines or operating system those apply to.)   
   >   
   >Also got reasonably decent with SQL, which might or might not be   
   >considered a "laungauge".   
   >   
   >And then there's there other stuff like RPG and some similar   
   >languages whose names I've forgotten. And the languages that I   
   >learned at one point and now can't even recall the names of. Ah,   
   >yes... ALGOL was one of them.   
      
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