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   The Doctor to daniel47@nomail.afraid.org   
   Re: Doctor Who's Davros reinvention is c   
   12 Dec 23 14:37:06   
   
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   XPost: can.arts.sf, rec.arts.sf.tv   
   From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca   
      
   In article ,   
   Daniel65   wrote:   
   >Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 12/12/23 4:26 pm:   
   >> In article ,   
   >> The Doctor  wrote:   
   >>> In article ,   
   >>> Dorothy J Heydt  wrote:   
   >>>> In article ,   
   >>>> The Doctor  wrote:   
   >>>>> In article ,   
   >>>>> Dorothy J Heydt  wrote:   
   >>>>>> In article ,   
   >>>>>> Daniel65   wrote:   
   >>>>>>> The Last Doctor wrote on 28/11/23 8:49 pm:   
   >>>>>>>> Daniel65  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 28/11/23 4:21 am:   
   >>>>>>>>>> In article , The True Doctor   
   >>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 23/11/2023 18:26, Tim Merrigan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 21:46:36 +0000, The True Doctor   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/11/2023 20:12, Tim Merrigan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:12:28 +0000, The True Doctor   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Retarded thinking by degenerate patronizing woke   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hypocrites and bigots who no body asked for them to be   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> represented by.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make up your mind, is it "woke" or bigoted?  (What   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> people appear to object to most about "woke" is that it's   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not bigoted.)   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> It's both woke and bigoted. That's how the conjunction   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> 'and' works. If I'd wanted to make it optional I would have   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> said 'or'.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> five specials and an 8 episode season in the can   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already and production is underway on the 2025   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> season), so we can either learn to live with it and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accept the show for what it now is, or move on.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doctor Who ended in 2017. Other people will continue   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it from where it ended. RTD isn't making anything for   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the viewers, and neither was Chibnall. They're only   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making stuff for their own woke degenerate egos.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thus speaketh the fanatic who thinks canon should follow   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> his fanfics.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> My fan fic. was better written than both Chibnall's and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Davies's, based on real canon, and had an able bodied   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Davros creating the Dalek travel machines so shouldn't you   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> be prizing it?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Jodie Whittaker's Doctor IS real canon at this point.  It's   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> not up to you, or anyone outside the production and publicity   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> staff at BBC, to decide otherwise.  What you're talking about   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> is fanfic.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Whittaker is not canon and neither is anything derived from   
   >>>>>>>>>>> the Timeless Child monster era. Doctor Who therefore ended in   
   >>>>>>>>>>> 2017 and is irrevivable unless the Timeless Child monster is   
   >>>>>>>>>>> erased.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> [Hal Heydt] Who died and made you the arbiter of canon?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> We've been waiting quite some time to get the answer to that   
   >>>>>>>>> question, Dorothy.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> That’s Dorothy’s husband Hal engaging, Daniel   
   >(hence the tag). At   
   >>>>>>>> least until Aggie’s absurdities exhaust his patience.   
   >Dorothy passed   
   >>>>>>>> last year.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Ah!! Sorry! With the surname 'Heydt' I guessed a non-English speaking   
   >>>>>>> poster, so thought the 'Hal' might have been from that other language.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Sorry, Hal. Sorry for not realising you weren't Dorothy .... and sorry   
   >>>>>>> for her passing (even though I didn't know her) .... but I guess   
   that'll   
   >>>>>>> come to us all, sooner or later!   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> [Hal Heydt]   
   >>>>>> I'm not upset about the mistake.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> A couple of bits of history...  The eponymous Heydt was Karl Otto   
   >>>>>> Heydt who came to the US from Prussia to avoid being drafted to   
   >>>>>> fight in the Franco-Prussian War of 1870.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> When we were married, Dorothy cheerfully change her surname from   
   >>>>>> Jones to Heydt because she had found over the years that a   
   >>>>>> surprising number of people could neither spell nor pronounce   
   >>>>>> Jones.  (Go figure.)  Likewise, because of the same issue with   
   >>>>>> Heydt, when our daughter was married, she changed her surname to   
   >>>>>> that of her husband, Creelman.  She has since found...the same   
   >>>>>> issue.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Languages and cultures come to mind.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> [Hal Heydt]   
   >>>> More about languages than you might suppose.  Dorothy had a   
   >>>> degree in Linguistics.  Me...the only languages (other than   
   >>>> English) that I can deal with are for programming computers.   
   >>>   
   >>> As in C, COBOL, Fortran, Pascal, BASIC ...   
   >>   
   >> [Hal Heydt]   
   >> I *can* write in C, though not well.  I spent a lot of years   
   >> writing in COBOL, and I can make it do things that aren't always   
   >> meant to be possible.  FORTRAN is kind of rusty.  I started with   
   >> FORTAN II and later got FORTRAN IV (pretty easy transition).   
   >> Never learned Pascal.  BASIC I get by in because I knew FORTRAN.   
   >> Also learned and/or used a number of assembly languages...  SPS   
   >> IID, Autocoder, ALC (aka BAL), COMPASS.  (Points to those that   
   >> can identify the machines or operating system those apply to.)   
   >>   
   >> Also got reasonably decent with SQL, which might or might not be   
   >> considered a "laungauge".   
   >>   
   >> And then there's there other stuff like RPG and some similar   
   >> languages whose names I've forgotten.  And the languages that I   
   >> learned at one point and now can't even recall the names of.  Ah,   
   >> yes...  ALGOL was one of them.   
   >>   
   >In the late 80's/early 90's, I did (little bits of) BASIC, Fortran and   
   >Pascal programing. Some writing in '1' and 'none' i.e. 'Zero' which then   
   >got compiled on to Intel 8085, Zilog Z80 or Motorola 6809 CPU's and I   
   >also taught basic/simple programing on those CPU's.   
      
   C onward should be the standard.   
      
   >--   
   >Daniel   
      
      
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