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   The Doctor to agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM   
   Re: "Doctor Who" Casting Director Respon   
   14 Dec 23 22:26:09   
   
   XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho, rec.arts.drwho, rec.arts.sf.tv   
   XPost: rec.arts.tv, can.arts.sf   
   From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca   
      
   In article ,   
   The True Doctor   wrote:   
   >On 12/12/2023 15:05, Ubiquitous wrote:   
   >> According to Doctor Who casting director Andy Pryor, the backlash to the   
   >> series’ race-swapping of real-world historical figure Sir Isaac Newton has   
   >> nothing to do with historical accuracy or a growing exhaustion with   
   >> identity-politics, but is instead based solely in – you guessed it   
   >– viewers’   
   >> own racist attitudes.   
   >   
   >It's Andy Pryor that's the racist not the viewers. He's nothing more   
   >than a bigoted racist woke cancel pig just like Squealer in Animal Farm   
   >that thinks the entire audience it completely stupid.   
   >   
   >   
   >> First broaching the topic after being met with praise from Opie for how well   
   >> he was able to keep Curtis’ appearance a secret, the casting director   
   >> explained, “Because it’s a brief but important moment, you can   
   >get an actor   
   >> in and out quite quickly, with parts like that.”   
   >>   
   >> “That was Russell’s idea, actually,” Pryor added. “We had   
   >talked about trying   
   >> to get Nathaniel in the show at some point and I think it’s a sort   
   >of rather   
   >> cheeky, but fun interpretation of Isaac Newton. You know, it’s not a   
   >> historical drama [Laughs]. Let’s just have some fun with it.”   
   >>   
   >   
   >So the two racist bigots conspired to conceal their racist casting for   
   >as long as possible. Neither David Tennant of Catherine Tate were there   
   >when the bigots filmed the racist scene either, but were added later via   
   >CSO.   
   >   
   >> “Nathaniel was very game,” he further recalled. “He’s a fan   
   >of the show. Such   
   >> a lovely guy, and he had a great time.”   
   >>   
   >>  From there, Opie then turned their discussion to how “there’s   
   >been backlash   
   >> from so-called ‘fans’ of Doctor Who in regard to these particular   
   >castings,   
   >> that they’re too ‘woke’, for want of a better word,”   
   >subsequently asking the   
   >> casting director, “You’ve engaged a bit with this discussion   
   >online, but I   
   >> wondered if you had anything else to add on this response to castings such   
   as   
   >> these?”   
   >>   
   >> In turn, Pryor asserted, “It’s sad that we’re in a time where people   
   >> villainise minorities.”   
   >>   
   >> “This sort of chatter, I’m very good at kind of tuning it out,”   
   >he told his   
   >> host. “And I’m also very, very happy to block people on Twitter.   
   >I don’t   
   >> really have any time for bigotry at all.”   
   >   
   >You're the bigot and also a hypocrite you racist cancel pig.   
   >   
   >Who's the one villainising minorities? It's racist cancel pigs like you   
   >and Russel T. Davies who made the Celestial Toymaker put on   
   >exaggerations of foreign European accents and justified that by saying   
   >that this made the Toymaker look evil. So to the degenerate woke retard   
   >all foreign accents are evil, especially German, French, and American   
   >ones, just like the retard also thinks that all wheelchair users are evil.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> Proceeding to broaden his argument, Pryor continued, “It then becomes even   
   >> more important to give people a voice and for people to be represented,   
   >> especially for young people growing up who might be trans or from an   
   >> minority. If they can see themselves on screen, then that can be a   
   >huge   
   >   
   >Well I'm from a minority, where's my representation you fucking   
   >degenerate woke hypocrite. Ah, you fucking sick racist cancel pigs took   
   >it away from me by making Cleopatra, a Greek olive skinned historical   
   >figure black. You fucking disgusting cancel pigs also took it away from   
   >me by turning my mathematically proven biological second cousin Achilles   
   >into a west sub-Saharan black African too, and also did that to my   
   >mathematically proven third cousin Aeneas, in Troy: Fall of a City,   
   >instead of making one blonde as he was described historically, and one   
   >olive skinned, you fucking racist bigots. Where's my representation you   
   >hypocritical racist scum?   
   >   
   >Where am I seeing myself on screen?   
   >   
   >You didn't even bother to cast any Greek, Cypriot, or Mediterranean   
   >looking actors in any of the leading roles, but race swapped half the   
   >characters.   
   >   
   >> lifeline for some people. That can make them feel part of the world, which   
   >> indeed they are.”   
   >   
   >Make them feel part of the world? What fucking degenerate world are you   
   >living on. A world where Isaac Newton was Indian and Hannibal was black?   
   >   
   >Where the representation for Tunisians when racist bigots such as   
   >yourself cast Denzel Washington to play a Carthaginian general of west   
   >Semitic decent, like all Tunisians, who originated from Lebanon, instead   
   >of having him look like themselves, olive skinned with Mediterranean   
   >features, not west sub-Saharan African.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> “Social media is a bit of a dangerous place because I think people   
   >get sucked   
   >> into saying things that I don’t know that they truly believe?” he   
   >questioned.   
   >> “It just becomes a game for them. Unfortunately, real life isn’t   
   >a game, and   
   >> I think it’s important to stand up for people who are marginalised.”   
   >>   
   >   
   >By taking representation way from people who are even more marginalized   
   >you hypocritical woke racist cancel pig.   
   >   
   >> Pryor then declared, “Growing up as a gay man, I’m as aware as   
   >anybody else   
   >   
   >Ah, so it is now clear that Retard T. Davies is only hiring gay people   
   >to work on Doctor Who and they will even change the ethnically of   
   >historical figures so that their gay friends can play them, even if they   
   >look nothing like them. What do we call that? Nepotism!   
   >   
   >> of how this stuff makes you feel when you see it. How that negativity can   
   >> affect you. I don’t really think anyone should have to go through that.”   
   >>   
   >   
   >Except you do, because you've already done it to others.   
   >   
   >How do you think Indian people feel about being told to identify with   
   >Isaac Newton who they know was clearly not of Indian decent in any way   
   >shape of form, and not a real Indian scientist like Subrahmanyan   
   >Chandrasekhar who far surpassed Newton in his discoveries and won a   
   >Nobel Prize? They probably all feel disgusted and demeaned by your   
   >ignorant insulting patronization.   
   >   
   >> “It’s an important thing for me,” he said. “It’s an   
   >important thing for   
   >> Russell and the whole Doctor Who team.There are so many ways of telling a   
   >> story and the more you can introduce other ideas and other kinds of people,   
   >> the more exciting it is.”   
   >>   
   >> Receiving subsequent praise from Opie regarding how the “show has   
   >always been   
   >> forward-thinking and progressive in that way, so it’s really nice that in   
   >> 2023, Doctor Who can embody that now more than ever,” Pryor ultimately   
      
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