From: tppm@ca.rr.com   
      
   On Sat, 23 Dec 2023 02:00:13 -0000 (UTC), "Keith F. Lynch"   
    wrote:   
      
   >Scott Dorsey  wrote:   
   >> Keith F. Lynch  wrote:   
   >>> They are claiming they will continue to maintain the historical   
   >>> archive and keep it searchable and readable, at least by those   
   >>> with Google accounts.   
   >   
   >> But it isn't searchable and readable and has not been for more than   
   >> a decade now.  The incices are badly broken and it is impossible   
   >> to find many earlier articles which could previously be found with   
   >> simple searches.  They are in there and if you know the message-id   
   >> you might be able to retrieve them, but just knowing the author and   
   >> content is not enough to find them.   
   >   
   >Thanks.  I knew there were problems 12 years ago when I was searching   
   >for all posts by Dan Hoey to make a memorial website for him.  But I   
   >figured they must have long since fixed their problems, since they're   
   >a very successful high tech company with high-status technical   
   >employees, and since search is their main line of business.  I wasn't   
   >able to check for myself since the whole of Google Groups had   
   >retreated behind the Google-login event horizon.   
   >   
   >If they're unwilling to maintain it, they should make full copies   
   >available to anyone who wants one.   
      
   The Usenet search started deteriorating the moment Google Groups took   
   over control of DejaNews, and has only gotten worse since.   
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