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   James Nicoll to alan@thewoodfords.uk   
   Re: Were some Hugo nominations unfairly    
   26 Jan 24 17:06:20   
   
   From: jdnicoll@panix.com   
      
   In article ,   
   Alan Woodford   wrote:   
   >On 26 Jan 2024 15:34:31 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:   
   >>   
   >>The Worldcon took place in China, but the Hugo nomination, voting, and   
   >>management process took place internationally and not in China.  Only the   
   >>ceremony itself took place in China.   
   >>   
   >>Gary is kind of over the top in his dislike of the Worldcon going to China,   
   >>and while I disagree with him about that, I have to say this is a major   
   issue.   
   >>I expect the Worldcon committee to bow to the will of the local government   
   >>in every possible way because that is how conventions operate in the real   
   >>world.  However, I do not expect the Hugo awards or its administration   
   >>subcommittee to do so.   
   >>--scott   
   >   
   >In an ideal world, yes, but in this one, I can't see the Chinese government   
   >wanting to make the distinction between the Concom and the Hugo Award   
   >subcommittee, especially if it means people they don't like getting awards at   
   >a big international event in China.   
      
   At this point it is not clear that the authorities played any direct   
   role. It could be self-censorship. There's also a case that this was   
   not political at all but rather giant fuckup processiing the votes:   
      
   https://camestrosfelapton.wordpress.com/2024/01/24/im-coming-aro   
   nd-to-the-unified-stuff-up-theory/   
      
   It seems unlikely we will ever know for sure. It will be a golden age   
   of conspiracy theories.   
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