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   From: tppm@ca.rr.com   
      
   On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 07:47:35 -0400, Cryptoengineer   
    wrote:   
      
   >On 3/25/2024 11:29 PM, Evelyn C. Leeper wrote:   
   >> On 3/25/24 2:18 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:   
   >>> Mad Hamish wrote:   
   >>>> On 5 Mar 2024 01:35:28 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> So, I am reading Rebecca Kuang's _Babel_ to see just what it was   
   >>>>> that the   
   >>>>> Hugo Committee may have objected to, and I find it extremely   
   >>>>> pro-Chinese.   
   >>>>> It is strongly against British imperialism and against the Opium   
   >>>>> War, and   
   >>>>> the Chinese government of the time may not have been very strong but   
   >>>>> was   
   >>>>> determined.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I think I've heard that the issue isn't the current work but that   
   >>>> she's written stuff critical of China in the past.   
   >>>   
   >>> Which would be even WORSE because it would be punishing her for   
   >>> "reforming"   
   >>> and finally writing something less critical.   
   >>>   
   >>> Whatever it was, it was sure a mess.   
   >>> --scott   
   >>   
   >> As I noted elsewhere, the good news is that all this resulted in a lot   
   >> of publicity for the book, which could well reach a wider audience than   
   >> if it *had* won the Hugo.   
   >   
   >Regardless of nigglined edge cases, the point remains. Russia has   
   >been invaded many times in history, while the US mainland has not.   
   >   
   >pt   
      
   Depends how far back you go in history. How about the first half of   
   the last half millennium.   
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