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   Scott Dorsey to Keith F. Lynch   
   Re: Babel   
   27 Mar 24 23:03:09   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.sf.written   
   From: kludge@panix.com   
      
   Keith F. Lynch  wrote:   
   >Tim Illingworth  wrote:   
   >> Cryptoengineer wrote:   
   >>> Regardless of nigglined edge cases, the point remains.  Russia has   
   >>> been invaded many times in history, while the US mainland has not.   
   >   
   >> December 1814 not count?   
   >   
   >I think you mean August of that year.  More recently there was an   
   >invasion of Pennsylvania in June and July 1863.   
      
   1814 definitely counts, although we really needed a new capitol building   
   anyway.   
      
   The 1863 invasion is kind of a special case because it depends on whether   
   you define the invaders as US citizens or not.  Since the war was about   
   who was a citizen and who wasn't, and the US won, I think it fair to define   
   them as rebellious citizens.  My Confederate-supporting high school history   
   teacher would not do so, however.   
      
   >Some might also count January 2021.  Is it an invasion of all   
   >participants were US citizens?  One person there was carrying the   
   >flag of the nation (not US state) of Georgia, though he was probably   
   >just confused.   
      
   Does not count, for the same reason that 1863 unpleasantness doesn't.   
   --scott   
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