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   Cryptoengineer to Gary McGath   
   Re: Babel   
   28 Mar 24 19:58:28   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.sf.written   
   From: petertrei@gmail.com   
      
   On 3/28/2024 7:04 PM, Gary McGath wrote:   
   > On 3/28/24 12:21 PM, Paul S Person wrote:   
   >   
   >> As to Jan 6 2021 -- if Trump is/was, in fact, an agent of Putin (as   
   >> many of his supporters appear to be, given their eagerness to gift   
   >> Putin Ukraine), then it was not an insurrection -- it was treason,   
   >> pure and simple.   
   >   
   > So now opposition to US foreign policy is "treason." I've heard that   
   > line too often before. "Love it or leave it."   
      
   Trump wasn't opposing US foreign policy. He was opposing the counting   
   of electoral votes, using a violent mob, because the normal operation   
   of government was going to put him out of power. At very least,   
   that's insurrection.   
      
   I really doubt that Trump actually takes orders from Moscow, but   
   he does seem to admire Putin, and its possible that Putin has   
   kompromat on him, which bends his actions even if not given   
   explicit instructions.   
      
   Looking at the actual law, 18 USC Ch. 115: TREASON, SEDITION, AND   
   SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES says:   
      
   Ā§2381. Treason   
   Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them OR   
   [helps enemies of the US] Shal    
      
   https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=%2Fprelim%40title18%2Fp   
   rt1%2Fchapter115&edition=prelim   
      
   With that, I think you can argue that Trumps actions *might* meet the   
   clause before the OR. In that case, yes, he committed treason.   
      
   pt   
      
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    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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