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   From: petertrei@gmail.com   
      
   On 4/3/2024 9:07 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:   
   > Scout  wrote:   
   >> Are you saying they can't act to defend themselves from terrorists, that   
   >> such criminals should remain at large to continue their rein of terror?   
   >>   
   >> So tell me, how would you go about dealing with these terrorists?   
   >>   
   >> Because allowing them to continue.. isn't a valid option.   
   >   
   > And killing civilians doesn't help matters.   
   >   
   > You've got crazy idealogues on both sides promoting the war.  Neither   
   > Netanyahu nor Haniyeh care anything about peace, they just want to win   
   > (whatever that means to them).  Then you have thousands of innocent people   
   > on both sides being caught in the crossfire.  It's not the fault of any   
   > of those people and they don't deserve what is happening to them.   
   >   
   > I don't have a solution to this... but I also think that continuing to   
   > toss bombs isn't going to fix anything.  And I think that if people keep   
   > doing the same thing they have been doing for the past sixty years that   
   > they will get the same result that they have been getting for the past   
   > sixty years.   
   > --scott   
      
   I completely agree that Israel doesn't have to continue to tolerate   
   Hamas lobbing rockets into Israel. No nation could, and it has a right   
   to try to stop it. Certainly the invasion and massacre must be   
   responded to.   
      
   Actions speak louder than words.   
      
   When I look at the Netanyahu government's actions, as opposed to   
   its public statements, I get a strong impression that there is an   
   unspoken agenda to force the entire Arab population to leave Gaza   
   altogether, by making the place uninhabitable.   
      
   Generally speaking, these actions are those that harm and punish   
   the civilian population, rather than targeting Hamas specifically.   
      
   They include:   
      
   * Cutting off food and water to the entire population. This   
   in particular supports my concern - it an extremely blunt weapon.   
   * Use of indiscriminate long distance weapons - missiles,   
   bombs, and artillery, which take down entire buildings.   
   * Deliberate demolition of cleared buildings.   
      
   Israel could have pursued far more targeted and less   
   destructive approach, albeit at the cost of more IDF deaths.   
      
   Netanyhu's actions suggest that he actually would prefer   
   to expel all Palestinians, not just from Gaza, but from   
   the West Bank as well.   
      
   pt   
      
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